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Gemini Man & Terminator: Dark Fate - both thumbs down
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:14 am    Post subject: Gemini Man & Terminator: Dark Fate - both thumbs down Reply with quote


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I was so looking forward to both these movies and was flat out disappointed with them both.

Gemini Man had everything going for it but remarkably IMHO had terrible directing, bad acting, bad lines, and a crappy plot. Blob all that on top of the 60Hz that it was filmed in and it wound up feeling like I was watching a bad made for TV movie. The only redeeming quality of the film is its extreme video clarity from said 60Hz, but just so bad.

I didn't have much hope for Dark Fate, but I had faith. Well. faith be gone, the movie was just bad. Again directing was awful, lines were poorly written, and Linda Hamilton's execution of her terribly written lines was bad as well. The best part for her was when she shot up the terminator the first time and said, "he'll be back." Arnold was actually the only redeeming quality in this one. He was wooden, but he was playing a terminator and I laughed out loud on several of his lines. I actually found myself laughing out loud on many parts that weren't supposed to be funny at all.

Oh well. I've seen some other good ones lately.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed on both counts.

Gemini Man also had the whole Will Smith CGI age removal applied which didn't look that convincing either. Dark Fate I was also hoping would be OK, but it wasn't and all the review points you mention are valid.

Of the two movies I'd say Gemini Man was bad, but Dark Fate was even worse.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Au contrare. Rotten Tomatoes has Gemini Man at 26% and SPLAT, while Termination is 70% and gets lots of positive reviews from the pro's and super reviewers. I find the RT ratings to be quite reliable 95% of the time.

Ang Lee seems to have gone off the boil. I'll give GM a miss but watch Terminator
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I would skip both, but I almost feel obligated to watch Terminator.

What about the video quality on Gemini? I know Kris Deering talks about Megladon having some good shots.
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spanky Ham wrote:
Thanks, I would skip both, but I almost feel obligated to watch Terminator.

What about the video quality on Gemini? I know Kris Deering talks about Megladon having some good shots.

I spent three days at Kris's house last week and brought my pre-release copy of Gemini Man so he could see it. I had honestly thought a lot of the movie was shot in front of a green screen because it was just so darn crystal clear, but Kris corrected me and told me it was actually shot that way and that the 60Hz leaded well to the clarity of the image. So yeah, it looks really good video quality wise.

Funny thing is that I do wonder if the 60Hz could have mad the acting seem worse than it was. It was not movie like at all so there was not really any suspension of disbelief. Perhaps if it was shot at 24Hz it might not have been so bad, or at least as bad.

Another thing that bugged me about GM was that the night scenes were shot in "day for night" and that never looks right to me. Yes you get more dark detail, but that's because it wasn't dark when it was shot. You can easily spot the glowing around boarders in the movie too.

Of the two, I liked Terminator much better. I did also totally feel obligated to watch terminator, but was simply disappointing that it wasn't at all good. I love the Terminator series and they really wouldn't have had to do much to make me at least say, "yeah that was all right." But, it fell flat.

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HaydnG90 wrote:
Au contrare. Rotten Tomatoes has Gemini Man at 26% and SPLAT, while Termination is 70% and gets lots of positive reviews from the pro's and super reviewers. I find the RT ratings to be quite reliable 95% of the time.

Ang Lee seems to have gone off the boil. I'll give GM a miss but watch Terminator

I tend to agree.

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spanky Ham wrote:
Thanks, I would skip both, but I almost feel obligated to watch Terminator.

What about the video quality on Gemini? I know Kris Deering talks about Megladon having some good shots.

If you want to see some serious 60Hz clarity look at the JVC demo disc if you get a chance. It's absolutely spellbinding in color and clarity. It makes full use of the DCI-P3 color space almost to the point of abuse... but it's amazing. It'll even make a Sony sing Razz

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:14 am    Post subject: Re: Gemini Man & Terminator: Dark Fate - both thumbs dow Reply with quote

CIR Engineering wrote:
I was so looking forward to both these movies and was flat out disappointed with them both.
I can't believe Hollywood is still making garbage, .................said no one Laughing

CIR Engineering wrote:
Oh well. I've seen some other good ones lately.

Best,
craigr
do tell! Surprised
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parasite was a great watch
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HaydnG90 wrote:
Parasite was a great watch

It looks weird, and I don't usually enjoy creepy movies. Sure gets great reviews though.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garyfritz wrote:
HaydnG90 wrote:
Parasite was a great watch

It looks weird, and I don't usually enjoy creepy movies. Sure gets great reviews though.


And winning prizes. The soundtrack is also great. Its less creepy, more character study and social commentary on interaction between the haves and have nots. I'll watch it again sometime.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HaydnG90 wrote:
Parasite was a great watch

you rented it on DVD?

Not available for streaming from traditional places, Vudu and Fandango?

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/parasite_2019

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

draganm wrote:
HaydnG90 wrote:
Parasite was a great watch

you rented it on DVD?
Not available for streaming from traditional places, Vudu and Fandango?

No, it's still in theaters: https://www.imdb.com/showtimes/title/tt6751668/
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Rented BR on Netflix
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really wierd to see a captioned/sub-titled foreign movie in American theaters. Used to Murikans would never tolerate that Wink
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HaydnG90 wrote:
Parasite was a great watch

Thats on my short list to watch and Im looking forward to it. Its not in UHD so its been loosing out though.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:53 am    Post subject: Re: Gemini Man & Terminator: Dark Fate - both thumbs dow Reply with quote

draganm wrote:
CIR Engineering wrote:
I was so looking forward to both these movies and was flat out disappointed with them both.
I can't believe Hollywood is still making garbage, .................said no one Laughing

CIR Engineering wrote:
Oh well. I've seen some other good ones lately.

Best,
craigr
do tell! Surprised

Well, not new anymore but I finally watch Annihilation a few months back. That is an AMAZING movie. Its under appreciated on IMDB with like a 6.7 score. One of the best movies I have ever seen.

Ford vs Ferrari was quite good though I liked it a bit less than the masses.

The Greatest Showman was one I was putting off forever because I tend to like live musicals, but not movies. Freaking loved it and have watched it three times in the last two months.

Ill get back with more when I look at my list.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green Book
Bohemian Rhapsody
Incredibles 2
Bird Box
Alita Battle Angel
Burning
Salyut 7
The Wolf's Call
Thor Ragnarok
Venom

For a quick list.

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CIR Engineering wrote:
Green Book
Bohemian Rhapsody
Incredibles 2
Bird Box
Alita Battle Angel
Burning
Salyut 7
The Wolf's Call
Thor Ragnarok
Venom

For a quick list.

craigr
green book was killer, i love Vigo movies . Bohemian Rhapsody was also good, and I'm not even a true fan of their music (it was ok). Bird box, not bad for a made-for-Netflix movie, Sandra is fun to watch too

Never heard of Salyut 7 but RT gave it 100% critics and 87% audience thumbs up, WOW. Where did you find it? Netflix as usual in their infinite lameness does not show it Watch on Prime , woohooh Thumbs Up

Burning- again 95%-82% , also on Prime

Wolf's call- 91%-71% actually on Netlix, wow!

Venom, generally i hate Superhero crap, and the critics agree 29%-80%

They liked Thor Ragnadonk though 93% -87%

Alita Battle Angel- have to draw the line here Craig, girl power crap + super-hero crap = way too much
Wink

thanks for the tips though, i know what I'm doing this weekend.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

draganm wrote:
green book was killer, i love Vigo movies . Bohemian Rhapsody was also good, and I'm not even a true fan of their music (it was ok). Bird box, not bad for a made-for-Netflix movie, Sandra is fun to watch too

Never heard of Salyut 7 but RT gave it 100% critics and 87% audience thumbs up, WOW. Where did you find it? Netflix as usual in their infinite lameness does not show it Watch on Prime , woohooh Thumbs Up

Burning- again 95%-82% , also on Prime

Wolf's call- 91%-71% actually on Netlix, wow!

Venom, generally i hate Superhero crap, and the critics agree 29%-80%

They liked Thor Ragnadonk though 93% -87%

Alita Battle Angel- have to draw the line here Craig, girl power crap + super-hero crap = way too much
Wink

thanks for the tips though, i know what I'm doing this weekend.

Don't know if you care, but on Netflix Wolf's Call is only available in SDR. I bought the UHDBD from Amazon.de It may be the same for Salyut 7... it's from Russia with love Wink Got that in UHDBD from Amazon.de as well.

Thor Ragnadonk is funny and the casting is good. I mean Tessa Thompson, come on!

Venom is highly unusual. I'm really not into super hero movies either... He's supposed to be a bad guy right? I liked it.

Actually one everybody should see is Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. That is truly original and exceptional! And no, your TV is not broken and the movie is not trying to be 3D, it just supposed to looks that way Wink

Alita Battle Angel I went in with lowered expectations so that helped. I also really enjoy Christoph Waltz so... not the best movie, but entertaining for me.

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