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Low hour Runco DTV1200/Cine 9- 1600 hours!

 
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:54 pm    Post subject: Low hour Runco DTV1200/Cine 9- 1600 hours! Reply with quote


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Just got this beastie in... mint condition case-wise, not a scratch on it.

Runco DTV 1200, AKA Barco Cine 9

-1600ish hours on the chassis and tubes.
-original remote included
-ceiling bracket included.
-color corrected C elements on R and G, with the dark green C element.
-case is black.

Comes with a really well built wood crate with padding to boot. Will post pix later, but you all know what a Barco Cine 9 looks like..

$2800 USD.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta ask...what's different about one of these vs a 909/Cine 9? I know they're the same chassis, but what's actually different between the Barco and the Runco versions?
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black case, extra $10K at retail. Wink
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/351952881898?
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happened to the Cine9 Curt ?
Wink

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sold it to China.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Green

With a good or a very good price i hope Thumbs Up

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The asking price. Very Happy
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that there is still a market in Asia for CRT Thumbs Up
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curt Palme wrote:
Black case, extra $10K at retail. Wink

Yup. That's about it. It's not even scanrate limited like some of the other models they OEM'ed:

http://www.curtpalme.com/Runco_Model_CrossRef.shtm

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
Curt Palme wrote:
Black case, extra $10K at retail. Wink

Yup. That's about it. It's not even scanrate limited like some of the other models they OEM'ed:

http://www.curtpalme.com/Runco_Model_CrossRef.shtm

Kal


Wow 2 cans plastic primer and two cans black paint $40 equity in your investment $10 000!!

BUT being Runco they didn't even spring for the primer. Mine flaked off easy on the 900 I have here. So $20 paint = $10 000!!

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Runco's defence, it's more than just what you see... they had a installation/support network built into the cost too. Installing and supporting CRT projectors is a lot of work.

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That worked for and against them. Runco did typically supply 'white glove' treatment to their customers, so yes, you were buying a tricked out Porsche, hand delivered, blah blah, but at a premium. Once they got into digitals, there were any number of issues, as in putting an NEC projector into a larger Runco metal box, which caused the sets to overheat. Often.

Also, I heard.via the internet.. that Planar has now killed Runco. The reasoning is that the future is in flat screens, and not projectors. That's not really a surprise, it seems whenever a company is bought out, it's a bad business move. Many decent companies have been killed by being purchased. The latest is Rane, bought by Numark, and it's a disaster for the pro sound guys. Will be interesting to see what Samsung does with Harman. My guess is that the consumer and pro audio stuff will suffer long term.
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curt Palme wrote:
it seems whenever a company is bought out, it's a bad business move.

A lot of buyouts happen on the way down as the company is devalued. This is certainly what happened in Runco's case.
In some cases a competitor will buy out someone just to be able to fold them in / shut them down.

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting.. I don't know numbers, but I'm sure that Runco sold far more projectors than they did flat panels. I always thought that Planar wanted that business to expand on their flat panels.

If I remember correctly, Sam sold it for $36 million, and I'm pretty sure that Planar wouldn't have seen that in return sales, but I could be wrong.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that projectors will continue to take the high ground because HUGE flat screens are horribly expensive and will remain so for a long time to come.

I have never heard of a flat screen that was larger than 120 inches diagonal and that one has a six figure price tag.


I'm concerned that you sold the 1200 to China. History suggests that the Chinese will make copies of it and sell them at wal-mart
for 50 dollars each which sounds great but they'll break in six weeks. Very Happy
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