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JustGreg
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: Screwed and Blu'd - Let the consumer fleecing begin! |
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We all knew this was coming didn't we....
Without Toshiba to absorb the rabbit punches meted out by Sony, the consumer is taking it in the ass, erm, gut on Sony licensed Blu-Ray player pricing. *See pricing timeline graphic below.
Adding insult to injury are Sony's plans to introduce BD Profile 2.0 near the end of 2008 which promises to make additional media content available via a RJ45 TCIP connection. Early adopters are screwed on this one unless Sony releases an update disc to patch the firmware and IF the player supports the connection. Some people will get off on watching Matrix Unloaded for the umpteenth time with a PIP box showing a 'simulcast' green screen making of the scene. I think most could care less and actually have lives they could invest that wasted time in.
The best bet right now is to hold off on purchasing a standalone BD player or buy a PS3. The price of the PS3 is holding steady at around $400.00 due in no small part to the competition posed by the muscle bound crossed arms of Microsoft standing vigil against another Sony monopoly.
While Microsoft may try to pass themselves off as a consumer guardian, they've left their Xbox 360 owners holding a $200.00 'useless' HD-DVD player. No big surprise there either as early adopters of the Xbox 360 now have a machine incapable of today current connectivity schema. (HDMI)
Random studies of electronics chain consumers show JSP would rather hold off taking the leap into the expensive Blu pool and will continue to upconvert until Blu-Ray player prices come down. Pricing isn't predicted to appreciably shrink until 2009 however. Apparently Sony would like to recoup the cost of it's battle with the bloodied and defeated Toshiba.
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rabies_70
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Link Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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OOOOOOPS, bluray zealots. Bet that stings a little. But doesn't it feel GOOD to support BluRay???? Just knowing it's SO MUCH BETTER than HD, or anything else for that matter must make thinking about all those extra dollars you have to spend now to support bluray a little better, right?
Personally I didn't give a rats @$$ about the different formats. I do think predatory capitalism is pretty low. No matter who's behind it.
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I dont care which way it went either I got a LGbh-100 as soon as it came out, HD-DVD, Blu Ray it didnt matter to me. All those extra features i never use anyhow.
One of the things I think that also isnt helping the HD disc material is the lack of knowledge to the average consumer. They still believe that upconverting dvd players that do 1080p are the same as HD-DVD or Blu Ray. i own a small Diner and hear it all the time from my customers. "Why get blu ray for 400 bucks when i can get a upconverting dvd player for 75 bucks and it will do 1080p as well?" Its the Fault of the Manufactures for letting that happen. not enough education towards the benefit of either of the HD formats. If those companies that make Blu ray or HD-DVD stoped making upconverting SD DVD players and only made the HD dsic players that also have a good upscaller then the consumer would have less choices as to which player to get. Thier would only be two choices. the old SD dvd non upconverting player or the up converting and HD disc players.
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WanMan
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Screwed and Blu'd - Let the consumer fleecing begin! |
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JustGreg wrote: | We all knew this was coming didn't we....
Without Toshiba to absorb the rabbit punches meted out by Sony, the consumer is taking it in the ass, erm, gut on Sony licensed Blu-Ray player pricing. *See pricing timeline graphic below.
Adding insult to injury are Sony's plans to introduce BD Profile 2.0 near the end of 2008 which promises to make additional media content available via a RJ45 TCIP connection. Early adopters are screwed on this one unless Sony releases an update disc to patch the firmware and IF the player supports the connection. Some people will get off on watching Matrix Unloaded for the umpteenth time with a PIP box showing a 'simulcast' green screen making of the scene. I think most could care less and actually have lives they could invest that wasted time in.
The best bet right now is to hold off on purchasing a standalone BD player or buy a PS3. The price of the PS3 is holding steady at around $400.00 due in no small part to the competition posed by the muscle bound crossed arms of Microsoft standing vigil against another Sony monopoly.
While Microsoft may try to pass themselves off as a consumer guardian, they've left their Xbox 360 owners holding a $200.00 'useless' HD-DVD player. No big surprise there either as early adopters of the Xbox 360 now have a machine incapable of today current connectivity schema. (HDMI)
Random studies of electronics chain consumers show JSP would rather hold off taking the leap into the expensive Blu pool and will continue to upconvert until Blu-Ray player prices come down. Pricing isn't predicted to appreciably shrink until 2009 however. Apparently Sony would like to recoup the cost of it's battle with the bloodied and defeated Toshiba.
Greg
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First, I knew this was coming and stated as much before Xmas. Anyone, like youself , that sat on their fat lazy arse for not buying a BD player when they had the chance to when they were under $300 can just take their tax returns and pay the premium, or just do without. Hah! No one said HD was suppose to be cheap.
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rabies_70
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:29 am Post subject: Re: Screwed and Blu'd - Let the consumer fleecing begin! |
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WanMan wrote: | JustGreg wrote: | We all knew this was coming didn't we....
Without Toshiba to absorb the rabbit punches meted out by Sony, the consumer is taking it in the ass, erm, gut on Sony licensed Blu-Ray player pricing. *See pricing timeline graphic below.
Adding insult to injury are Sony's plans to introduce BD Profile 2.0 near the end of 2008 which promises to make additional media content available via a RJ45 TCIP connection. Early adopters are screwed on this one unless Sony releases an update disc to patch the firmware and IF the player supports the connection. Some people will get off on watching Matrix Unloaded for the umpteenth time with a PIP box showing a 'simulcast' green screen making of the scene. I think most could care less and actually have lives they could invest that wasted time in.
The best bet right now is to hold off on purchasing a standalone BD player or buy a PS3. The price of the PS3 is holding steady at around $400.00 due in no small part to the competition posed by the muscle bound crossed arms of Microsoft standing vigil against another Sony monopoly.
While Microsoft may try to pass themselves off as a consumer guardian, they've left their Xbox 360 owners holding a $200.00 'useless' HD-DVD player. No big surprise there either as early adopters of the Xbox 360 now have a machine incapable of today current connectivity schema. (HDMI)
Random studies of electronics chain consumers show JSP would rather hold off taking the leap into the expensive Blu pool and will continue to upconvert until Blu-Ray player prices come down. Pricing isn't predicted to appreciably shrink until 2009 however. Apparently Sony would like to recoup the cost of it's battle with the bloodied and defeated Toshiba.
Greg
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First, I knew this was coming and stated as much before Xmas. Anyone, like youself , that sat on their fat lazy arse for not buying a BD player when they had the chance to when they were under $300 can just take their tax returns and pay the premium, or just do without. Hah! No one said HD was suppose to be cheap. |
Very well spoken Nostradamus. Anything else you "know" and would care to share with the rest of us with a "fat lazy arse" lest we all share the same miserable fate?
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: Re: Screwed and Blu'd - Let the consumer fleecing begin! |
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rabies_70 wrote: | WanMan wrote: | JustGreg wrote: | We all knew this was coming didn't we....
Without Toshiba to absorb the rabbit punches meted out by Sony, the consumer is taking it in the ass, erm, gut on Sony licensed Blu-Ray player pricing. *See pricing timeline graphic below.
Adding insult to injury are Sony's plans to introduce BD Profile 2.0 near the end of 2008 which promises to make additional media content available via a RJ45 TCIP connection. Early adopters are screwed on this one unless Sony releases an update disc to patch the firmware and IF the player supports the connection. Some people will get off on watching Matrix Unloaded for the umpteenth time with a PIP box showing a 'simulcast' green screen making of the scene. I think most could care less and actually have lives they could invest that wasted time in.
The best bet right now is to hold off on purchasing a standalone BD player or buy a PS3. The price of the PS3 is holding steady at around $400.00 due in no small part to the competition posed by the muscle bound crossed arms of Microsoft standing vigil against another Sony monopoly.
While Microsoft may try to pass themselves off as a consumer guardian, they've left their Xbox 360 owners holding a $200.00 'useless' HD-DVD player. No big surprise there either as early adopters of the Xbox 360 now have a machine incapable of today current connectivity schema. (HDMI)
Random studies of electronics chain consumers show JSP would rather hold off taking the leap into the expensive Blu pool and will continue to upconvert until Blu-Ray player prices come down. Pricing isn't predicted to appreciably shrink until 2009 however. Apparently Sony would like to recoup the cost of it's battle with the bloodied and defeated Toshiba.
Greg
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First, I knew this was coming and stated as much before Xmas. Anyone, like youself , that sat on their fat lazy arse for not buying a BD player when they had the chance to when they were under $300 can just take their tax returns and pay the premium, or just do without. Hah! No one said HD was suppose to be cheap. |
Very well spoken Nostradamus. Anything else you "know" and would care to share with the rest of us with a "fat lazy arse" lest we all share the same miserable fate? |
Think that's spelt Nostro-DUMB-ASS
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WanMan
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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First, I was joking. Second, both Costco and Best Buy had been selling Blu-ray players for $279-299 since Thanksgiving through Xmas, and that doesn't even speak of the sub-$300 Amazon Blu-ray offerings that were going on.
So, humor aside the deals were there but you had to either surfed the Internet (Amazon was a difficult option, I know) or go into a store. Of course, being that this is a CRT forum based on people's willingness to even consider used then I would presume you could find both new and used players for under $300.
Maybe some of you should petition the FCC to offer up welfare coupons on BD? You poor ba$tards.
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kal Forum Administrator
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Link Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Screwed and Blu'd - Let the consumer fleecing begin! |
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What's the source of your information Greg? I don't understand what you're saying with this one:
JustGreg wrote: | Adding insult to injury are Sony's plans to introduce BD Profile 2.0 near the end of 2008 which promises to make additional media content available via a RJ45 TCIP connection. Early adopters are screwed on this one unless Sony releases an update disc to patch the firmware and IF the player supports the connection. |
How's this adding insult to injury? Everyone knows that the players out today aren't Profile 2.0 compliant.
The actual news/dates:
"Sony has announced officially that its first profile 2.0 ready Blu-ray players will be released later this year. Each will include profile 1.1 "Bonus Play" support, an Ethernet connection and a USB port for external storage. The BDP-S350 ($400) will be available this summer and will be firmware updatable to profile 2.0/BD-Live later in the year. The BDP-S550 ($500) will follow in the fall, and will ship with profile 2.0/BD-Live support installed. FYI, sources at Panasonic have also told us that their first profile 2.0 player, the BD-50, is due to arrive in stores in May or June."
Source: http://www.homemediamagazine.com/news/html/breaking_article.cfm?sec_id=2&&article_ID=12178
The PS3 is still the best buy, but if you really don't want a gaming machine the S350 sounds like a good machine to get as it'll support Profile 2.0 100%.
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WanMan
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If I were to buy another BD player it would probably be a second PS3.
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