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KennyG · Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 254

Looks like Toshiba is calling it quits http://thedigitalbits.com

ecrabb · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:38 am Post subject:

It's not like we didn't see that coming.

**kal** · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:22 am Post subject:

Bill's an interesting guy: He likes to say he's neutral and I really do think *he* himself does think he's neutral, but a lot of comments really are biased towards Blu-ray.

Kal

Tom.W · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6637

Kal what is it you like most about blu ray ? Is it the name, the DRM or the regional codes or is it that it costs more so must be better...

MikeEby · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 5238 Location: Osceola, Indiana

**kal** · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:41 am Post subject:

greg_mitch · Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 5321

kal, it seems that your posts recently have been "rubbing it in" to HD DVD enthusiasts, that is probably the backlash you see.

I saw HD DVD as better for the HT enthusiast so that is why I supported it, not because it had better "sales". Why would you buy something just because others were buying it?

In the end it doesn't really matter, although I hope to not be reading snide remarks from long time BR supporters for the following years. I guess I will always have a bitter taste in my mouth from seeing Goliath stomp David.

overclkr · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 4227

I of course am going to buy BD BUT, Sony can still kiss my ass.

I hope they dont get LAZY NOW.

Homo's.

Cliffy

Tom.W · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6637

MYoung · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 369 Location: Madison, WI

I went on Amazon to finish off my master list of HD DVDs that I want. I'll soon have 20 HD DVDs and there's 77 more titles on HD DVD that I still want. I went through all the Blu-rays titles as well. The hilarious thing is that even with Blu-ray's 75% studio advantage and slight title advantage, my HD DVD want list was still longer than the Blu-ray want list. I think I'll just stock up on HD DVDs on the cheap and wait for Blu-ray to...

1) release a stand-alone player with 5.1 analog audio output, component video output, profile 2.0 functionality, and a $200 price tag
2) release at least 50 titles I genuinely want
3) lower title prices to $15 each

Lets hope that competition with DVD causes those things to happen. I'll say this though -- I'm pretty much done buying DVDs. I haven't bought a DVD in over a year.

WanMan · Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 10273

draganm · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 8990 Location: Colorado

There's a good chance I never get a blueray. I will also never buy a Sony product as long as I live. If my kids, when they grow up, ever buy a sony product I will write them out pf my Will.
My HD-A2 will forever remain in my equipment rack as a monument to how corporate scheming and manipulation can exploit the ignornace of the general public to acheive all it's goals. This bug me beyond the small issue of who's making HD movies, it's really what's wrong with the entire world we live in.
I'm going to buy some Vinyl records now and make myself feel better. Laughing

JustGreg · Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3098 Location: Kenosha, WI

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO

JustGreg · Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3098 Location: Kenosha, WI

I didn't say or mean disk format. You went on to speak exactly of what I meant. Any competition will come from the net. I already posted before that I think that's where Sony will meet it's next opponent...and lose miserably. World Wide Web-One....Sony-Nothing. Not even Sony can control the web.

You're more informed than I on the technology required to counter Sony's disc based triumph....but I truly and firmly believe net delivered content is already an inevitability.

But holy hell can you image everything involved in making that a reality? I know it's already being done with varying levels of success and quality but I mean to TRULY make it a solid, workable option.

Cisco stock will shoot through the roof, the cable and satellite companies with their overpriced Subscription packages and cables MOD content will fight it tooth and nail, broadband prices will go up... Rolling Eyes

As an aside, from a Green standpoint, think of the fuel that will be saved annually if people didn't go to the video store. I know NetDix is already there to fill that but brick and mortar vid stores still have high foot traffic.

I can't wait for the next contender to get in the ring with Sony. If it's the web, Sony is dead meat. I'm going to stick my foot in my mouth more and guess Sony will counter with connected players (they are already but have no storage capacity), add massive hard drives, and attempt to horn in on that action too. That's cool tho. That's exactly what I'd do to respond.

Who knows. It's entertaining (and free) to speculate tho.

I personally have gotten a kick out of the whole short lived battle of the formats. That's two in my lifetime. I wonder if I'll be around for the next one seeing as the last two have been 20+ years apart. Rolling Eyes

Greg

GEBrown · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 729 Location: Denver

I'm over in Frankfurt on business this week and this morning, one of the lead stories on BBC News was that it is expected that Toshiba will announce sometime this week that they are dropping the HD-DVD business and getting out altogether.

Very sad - I would have to guess that they will not make any more firmware upgrades either.

Bummer!!

Person99 · Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 4901 Location: Flower Mound, TX

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject:

I helped BD win, too. I admit it. The movies I wanted (Pixar) just weren't on the format I wanted to use (HD). When Wal-Mart had the 80-gig PS3 with 10 free titles (worth $250-300) for $500, I couldn't pass it up. My dad and I both got one, in fact. We already had 4 HD DVD players between us and had for some time, so it wasn't as if we were sitting on the sidelines. Of course, by that time, BD media had already been outselling HD media by about 2:1 almost the whole year, which the exception of a month or two where they were closer than that.

More than anything else, what won this war for Sony was a massive (mis)-information campaign (both on the part of Sony itself and the supporters) about how superior BD was, a lackluster information and advertising campaign by Toshiba, et al, and totally unfair and biased selling practices by retail stores. My local Best Buy short-changed HD-DVD and pushed BD all year last year. There was never any 'let the consumer decide' position. Gee, I wonder why the sales numbers were better for BD! It was clear that because they could make a lot more money on it, they pushed it instead of HD DVD. That mirrors the hundreds of comments I've ready by people who were in other Best Buy stores.

SC

**kal** · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject:

ecrabb · Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: