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9kids
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 138 Location: Manassas, VA
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Link Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: ETA on second batch of Moome External EXT-HD Box |
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Just thought I would ask if Moome is going to delay the second batch of EXT-HD boxs in order to implement any possible changes needed to correct issues being reported about the first batch. While I am anxious to get the box, I would rather see a delay and get a bug free box.
Thanks
John (9kids)
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paw
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1176 Location: Arvada, CO
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Link Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the 2nd batch and have the same questions.
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Speedplay
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 117 Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Link Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Me too.
And depending on the time period, maybe a hold on the charges.
Keep a deposit if it is going to be a considerable time to fix and ship the second batch. But I don't want to pay the full amount and have to wait indefinitely for delivery of a bug free external box.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 17860 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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What about the lock-up problem?
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kal Forum Administrator
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scottatl
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 113
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Link Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I am in the second batch as well. Fundamentally this is the same unit as he manufactures for the internal cards so I wonder what has changed to create this issue.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 17860 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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scottatl wrote: | I am in the second batch as well. Fundamentally this is the same unit as he manufactures for the internal cards so I wonder what has changed to create this issue. |
If I'm not mistaken, the internal cards all have gamma adjustment done with little add-on cards. The EXT-HD has a new way of doing this directly on the main board. I believe Moome mentioned in some other threads that different op-amps and other parts were used (?)
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moome
Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 497
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Link Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:39 am Post subject: |
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kal wrote: | scottatl wrote: | I am in the second batch as well. Fundamentally this is the same unit as he manufactures for the internal cards so I wonder what has changed to create this issue. |
If I'm not mistaken, the internal cards all have gamma adjustment done with little add-on cards. The EXT-HD has a new way of doing this directly on the main board. I believe Moome mentioned in some other threads that different op-amps and other parts were used (?)
Kal |
the EXT-HD VGA version and current batch VIM and IFB using same new gamma card with new OPAMP chip on it,
the picture will more sharper than previous version, may due to ring, we will post a solution later!
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moome
Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 497
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Link Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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garyfritz wrote: | What about the lock-up problem? |
do you have more information, so we can check, like what resolution and dvd title and test pattern you use?
or you can email to moome@seed.net.tw my friend will take card of this!
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Several people have reported it. The EXT-HD gets locked up and will not respond to the remote OR to the front-panel buttons. The only way to unlock it is to pull the power.
I'm using 720p with Transformers in an HD-A2, but other people have seen the same thing with different sources. See e.g. http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=83637#83637. You indicated it might be the ROM writing delay, but when mine freezes up it NEVER comes back (I think!) until I cycle power.
How long of a lock-up should we expect when we change inputs?
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moome
Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 497
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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garyfritz wrote: | Several people have reported it. The EXT-HD gets locked up and will not respond to the remote OR to the front-panel buttons. The only way to unlock it is to pull the power.
I'm using 720p with Transformers in an HD-A2, but other people have seen the same thing with different sources. See e.g. http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=83637#83637. You indicated it might be the ROM writing delay, but when mine freezes up it NEVER comes back (I think!) until I cycle power.
How long of a lock-up should we expect when we change inputs? |
is lock out problem often occur, or it occur when power on?
when box stop response while change input or adjust gamma,
you can try push the remote #1 serveral time to wake it up.
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Gino
Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 1363 Location: Trinity Beach, AUSTRALIA
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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moome wrote: | the EXT-HD VGA version and current batch VIM and IFB using same new gamma card with new OPAMP chip on it, the picture will more sharper than previous version, may due to ring, we will post a solution later! |
Moome, I just ordered a Marquee internal card on Thursday December 6th. If you have not sent it out to me yet, are you able to put the old gamma module on it instead so I don't have this problem?
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moome
Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 497
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Link Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Gino wrote: | moome wrote: | the EXT-HD VGA version and current batch VIM and IFB using same new gamma card with new OPAMP chip on it, the picture will more sharper than previous version, may due to ring, we will post a solution later! |
Moome, I just ordered a Marquee internal card on Thursday December 6th. If you have not sent it out to me yet, are you able to put the old gamma module on it instead so I don't have this problem? |
we will solve the problem then send you, the new gamma card have better high frequency response!
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Gino
Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 1363 Location: Trinity Beach, AUSTRALIA
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Link Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: |
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moome wrote: | we will solve the problem then send you, the new gamma card have better high frequency response! |
moome - is the gamma module in built or removable on the VIM version? the first batch of HDMI VIM cards had a removable gamma module. if it is still removable, could you just send me the card first as i would very much like it before christmas. it was in stock, ordered on Dec 6, so would have expected it here by now. then you can just send me the gamma module when you fix the problem
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scottatl
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 113
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Link Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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I just ordered my 1080p HD-DVD player. I am really looking foreword to the 2nd batch shipment.
I posted around two month ago, somewhat facetiously, that I wanted to trade a second batch unit, for a first batch unit and noted that first batch orders often have issues. I am glad no one took me up on the offer.
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7180
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O_salt
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 60 Location: Bellevue, Wa
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I ordered my external box on November 23rd, is this in the second batch?
Steve
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kal Forum Administrator
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moome
Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Posts: 497
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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O_salt wrote: | I ordered my external box on November 23rd, is this in the second batch?
Steve |
yes!
and Gino, i have add some parts on the VIM, it should reduce EE problem
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O_salt
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 60 Location: Bellevue, Wa
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks.
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