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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to ask that idiot "professor" if she "actually needs that amount of education to have a good life. There are uneducated people. There are ignorant people. There are serious educational concerns, and she's just not addressing that."
Stupid b***h.
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perisoft
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 2920 Location: Ithaca, NY
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, the old "children are starving" fallacy - also known colloquially as a 'false alternative'.
If there was a direct, either-or choice between Mr. Chase possessing a large dwelling, and a solution to world hunger, the esteemed professor might have a point. However, the argument as presented requires either that, or an assumption that everyone will be required to live while consuming precisely the 'correct' amount of... well, consumables - a level which, presumably, matches the professor's economic footprint.
Unfortunately, it seems fairly obvious that there is no practical way to get everyone in the world to match their lifestyles. That's just not very... human.
If the professor had argued that, as an individual, Mr. Chase should be reconsidering his personal charitable contribution given his income, then she'd have been an ignorant busybody. The implication that his particular housing project indicates a failure of overall social policy, however, smacks either of willful stupidity or self-aggrandizing showmanship. Deciding which it is is an exercise best left to the reader...
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JustGreg
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3098 Location: Kenosha, WI
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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garyfritz wrote: | Great stuff, Arnold! Thanks for sharing that. Heywood is right -- you'll find many kindred souls here. Though not many with your HT budget. Welcome to the asylum, and I hope you'll keep us updated on your HT construction!
Gary |
Welcome Heff, I mean Arnold. Seriously, nice house. Are there any trees left in Maine?
And budget? Who's got a CRT HT budget? Most everyone I know in this hobby wings it and redirects funds. sh*t, I've been "budgeting" to get the roof replaced on my house for the last 3 years... but the moome's, Gary M's, Kim's, jousts, and the rest of the Sirens lure me and my money away. (I lack willpower...I'll admit it). (Hey, I bought the wife an umbrella. I'm not heartless ya know!)
Greg
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rabies_70
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1189 Location: Carlsbad, CA
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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OK let me retract my earlier obviously mis informed statement
Quote: | VERY nice place you have there |
And modify it to, OH MY GOD, that is a very, very nice place you have there.
The picture with the nomex suits is classic
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Tom.W
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6637
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Regardless of cost this is one cool HT !
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ronholm
Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 12111
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:59 am Post subject: |
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achase wrote: |
You have no idea what its been like the past two weeks...I used to be in the media myself, and I never would have believed it possible to distort a situation as much as I've just witnessed!
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Ohhh I would certainly believe that one..
Congrats on your successes.. That is one awesome home, and I hope it serves it intended purpose well..
You are an inspiration to me sir.
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Are contemporary journalists completely incapable of writing good hard news stories without adding editorial or trying to invent a "big picture" where none exists |
I would say yes.. and it goes beyond incapable.. But I will save those stories for another thread
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achase
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 113 Location: West Hartford
TV/Projector: Christie 4k DCI
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Ridebreck
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 943 Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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So what kind of seating are you planning on furnishing that killer space with? You going with more of the regular-style theater seats or something along the line of Berklines?
Very impressive pad, I must say, man.
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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
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achase
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 113 Location: West Hartford
TV/Projector: Christie 4k DCI
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Ridebreck wrote: | So what kind of seating are you planning on furnishing that killer space with? You going with more of the regular-style theater seats or something along the line of Berklines? |
The exact seats haven't been picked out yet, but they will probably be normal theater style with extra width, upholstering, etc.
My kids and I are experienced at installing these, as we had a 'family project' assembly line doing this the last time (on a smaller scale).
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Tom.W
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6637
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Put some extra padding in those seats for those two and a half hour movies !
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NewbieDAN
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 319 Location: Bunbury Western Australia
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: |
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achase wrote: | Ridebreck wrote: | So what kind of seating are you planning on furnishing that killer space with? You going with more of the regular-style theater seats or something along the line of Berklines? |
The exact seats haven't been picked out yet, but they will probably be normal theater style with extra width, upholstering, etc.
My kids and I are experienced at installing these, as we had a 'family project' assembly line doing this the last time (on a smaller scale). |
You must have plenty of kids!
....dad, my arms are getting sore....stop complaining, there's only 75 more to go....
Looks fantastic Arnold, looking forwards to more progress pics.
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Tom.W
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6637
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Just glad you could talk the wife into the HT !
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JustGreg
Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 3098 Location: Kenosha, WI
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: |
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So Arnold....I've got the nads to come out and ask it.....are we going to see a forum invite to an HT meet down the road some time? Invite enough of us and make attendance contingent upon installation of your own seat and that'll take care of that to-do list item. Put the HT geeks to work!
Fantastic project you have. What a fun adventure it must be to take on a project as large as your home and grounds.
Greg
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achase
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 113 Location: West Hartford
TV/Projector: Christie 4k DCI
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:00 am Post subject: |
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JustGreg wrote: | So Arnold....I've got the nads to come out and ask it.....are we going to see a forum invite to an HT meet down the road some time? Invite enough of us and make attendance contingent upon installation of your own seat and that'll take care of that to-do list item. Put the HT geeks to work!
Fantastic project you have. What a fun adventure it must be to take on a project as large as your home and grounds.
Greg |
Of course there will be a 'field trip'...what did you think the extra seats were for anyway???
Even though a LOT of thought went into this project, there are always better ways to do things that come about as a result of different perspectives and suggestions.
Keep patient, as the duct work is just going in now. Estimated completion time is October '08. Who knows, maybe the "format war" will be over by then...
I'll try to post progress photos along the way. If I get preoccupied with other things, just prod me along -
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Tom.W
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6637
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: |
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What format war ? No way !!! I'm still Buying HD-DVD just in case !
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Alaric
Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 127 Location: Huntingdon, Cambs, UK
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Hi There,
Stunning scale of set-up there....Its fairly mindblowing having a read through some of the details, its also nice to seem someone of means and an interest in the hobby....I've read a lot of 'wow' type magazine articles that have some nice kit in places but its been installed for them and they don't really understand whats going on. You certainly seem to have a grasp on what you want to do and achive and a passion and thats cool.
As for cables, i've never gone that esoteric, but i've played with some of the brands and had a go at making my own and so far i've seen remarkably little difference. My current set-up uses Cat5 based cabling !
a friend a while back had some Klipschorns and they certainly sounded nice and fast, I'd have time for those...I'm curious about the HPS4000, though some of the site claims remind me of Bose (bending physics), I'm also not so sure i apriciate the Orchestra equivolency factor either....maybe sheer power doesn't factor in so much for me, but then i've only 5 sets in my HT (though we had 8 people...i would say you can never have enough seats...but at 103 your probably safe ). It would be interesting to hear a set-up, but i doubt there are any in the UK.
Cya,
Lee
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Tom.W
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 6637
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achase
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 113 Location: West Hartford
TV/Projector: Christie 4k DCI
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Link Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Tom.W wrote: | Was wondering what the interior of the finished HT might look like ? |
The theater will be a "traditional" (classic) design by Theo Kalomirakis of TK Theaters. Each of his theaters is a custom design so I can't show you any exact pictures. Perhaps the closest theater design to what this will be is:
http://www.tktheaters.com/gallery/digitalpalace/digitalpalace_1.jpg
Tom.W wrote: | ... will the screen be curved or flat ? |
It will be flat. I wanted to use the Stewart Micro-Perf but it cannot be made for the needed dimensions. I'm still working on a substitute.
Alaric wrote: | I'm curious about the HPS4000, though some of the site claims remind me of Bose (bending physics), I'm also not so sure i apriciate the Orchestra equivolency factor either....maybe sheer power doesn't factor in so much for me, but then i've only 5 sets in my HT (though we had 8 people...i would say you can never have enough seats...but at 103 your probably safe ). It would be interesting to hear a set-up, but i doubt there are any in the UK.
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Unfortunately it appears the nearest installation to you is in Norway or Sweden. What John is trying to say with his "Orchestra Equivalency" ratings is that the system is capable of handling high peak program levels effortlessly. It reminds me of the McIntosh demonstrations of the 1970's wherein they would hold clinics around the country where you could bring any brand of amplifier in to be tested before your eyes for peak power, THD, etc. Because the Macs had massive brute force power supplies, they would not sag or distort when presented with the most demanding source material, unlike their competitors that were "rated" for similar output levels but couldn't handle the input material (typically square waves at 20 Hz.). In a similar fashion, John designs his sound systems to handle the most complex program material without compromise. You have to appreciate what it takes to move the amount of air required in a large theater venue, especially the bass. If you ever get your hands on back issues of Box Office Magazine, the theater industry's main trade publication, you'll find years of technical articles by John (who is considered the MOST knowledgeable theater audio expert in the world).
John drove my architects absolutely crazy by insisting that the theater be designed around his surround sound array. He would not tolerate them to be located any more than an inch from their computed optimum locations. Similarly, from the diagrams that have been posted, you can see the precision in aiming the mains that he requires. Don't ask me what it all means ( it is probably because of precise phasing and time delay requirements, etc.), all I know is that it works!!!
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26690 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Link Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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achase wrote: | snipped......
John drove my architects absolutely crazy by insisting that the theater be designed around his surround sound array. He would not tolerate them to be located any more than an inch from their computed optimum locations. Similarly, from the diagrams that have been posted, you can see the precision in aiming the mains that he requires. Don't ask me what it all means ( it is probably because of precise phasing and time delay requirements, etc.), all I know is that it works!!! |
It's great to hear he would NOT compromise. I can imagine the arcitects moaning about how THEY have to work around a theater guys install.
I have a friend who's father was in the business and he had a bit of the -hollier than thou- atitude towards the HVAC, fireplace guys, HT installers, pretty much anyone that asked him to 'bend' his designs to suite thier installs.
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