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What's the lattest video card(s) to support Powerstrip?

 
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: What's the lattest video card(s) to support Powerstrip? Reply with quote


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Hello, I've read in several posts that the new Geforce 8800 don't work with powerstrip. What's the highest/fastest Gforce card(s) that will spport it?

Also anyone know why powerstrip won't work on the latest cards?

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest Nvidia would be 7x series. They 8x series is not supported because nvidia has not released the documentation that Entech needs to make Powerstrip work. This is nvidia's decision.

The ATi 2900 is supported, and I would expect the 2400 and 2600 to follow shortly, as ATi is playing ball.

Ask on the Powestrip forum - go right to the source.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ask on the Powestrip forum - go right to the source.


Not a bad idea. I just wanted to see the slant from the CRT'ers here.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so then, the ati 2400 is still not currently supported with p-strip?

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_A_W wrote:
Latest Nvidia would be 7x series. They 8x series is not supported because nvidia has not released the documentation that Entech needs to make Powerstrip work. This is nvidia's decision.

The ATi 2900 is supported, and I would expect the 2400 and 2600 to follow shortly, as ATi is playing ball.

Ask on the Powestrip forum - go right to the source.


I'm successfully running a Powerstrip beta (3.75 build 590) with my HD 2600XT. It was specifically created for the ATI HD 24xx/26xx series.
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a good scaler you can use any of the 8 series nvidia cards - plus there are drivers with advanced timings available - you dont need powerstrip Smile
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: What's the lattest video card(s) to support Powerstrip? Reply with quote

AnalogRocks wrote:
Hello, I've read in several posts that the new Geforce 8800 don't work with powerstrip. What's the highest/fastest Gforce card(s) that will spport it?

Also anyone know why powerstrip won't work on the latest cards?

I've read thats because they don't need it. the functionality is built into the driver.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oliverg wrote:
If you have a good scaler you can use any of the 8 series nvidia cards - plus there are drivers with advanced timings available - you dont need powerstrip Smile



Why would you run a PC and a Scaler? I run a PC because I don't need or want a scaler.

Are the custom timings available for XP yet? Are they 2 or 3 decimal place accuracy?



The downside with the custom timings in the driver approach is you can't drive the resolutions with Shortcuts or Command lines.

I use Reclock to drive a VBS script which drives Powerstrip to change the refresh rate to match the source material automagically. You just play the video and 2 seconds later the res changes.

You can't do this with the driver timings approach.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_A_W wrote:

The downside with the custom timings in the driver approach is you can't drive the resolutions with Shortcuts or Command lines.

I use Reclock to drive a VBS script which drives Powerstrip to change the refresh rate to match the source material automagically. You just play the video and 2 seconds later the res changes.

You can't do this with the driver timings approach.


can you write up a short doc to show us how to do this?
that'd be great.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, we would love to all be able to do this, and for an entire 10,000 DVD catalog. Very Happy
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_A_W wrote:
oliverg wrote:
If you have a good scaler you can use any of the 8 series nvidia cards - plus there are drivers with advanced timings available - you dont need powerstrip Smile



Why would you run a PC and a Scaler? I run a PC because I don't need or want a scaler.

Are the custom timings available for XP yet? Are they 2 or 3 decimal place accuracy?



The downside with the custom timings in the driver approach is you can't drive the resolutions with Shortcuts or Command lines.

I use Reclock to drive a VBS script which drives Powerstrip to change the refresh rate to match the source material automagically. You just play the video and 2 seconds later the res changes.

You can't do this with the driver timings approach.


OK - the more modern scalers do a lot more than just scale. Check out the Crystalio 2 (which I use). The PQ of all my display devices are much improved by this device - even (especially) my HTPC.

Even native (appliance) 1080P sources are improved significantly

Also, the dynamicVP feature on this VP will do exactly what you're software approach will do - automagically adapting output/timings etc

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do modern scalers do that I need?

- Noise reduction? Don't need it, only watch HD.

- Custom & matched refresh rates/res's? Don't need it, PC does that.

- Deinterlacing? Only need Weave, PC does it fine.

- Scaling? Don't need it. 1920x1080 into 1920x1080 doesn't need spacial scaling, and the temporal conversion to 96i or 100i works fine on the PC.

- Gamma? PC does that.

- Switching? Only have one source.


I don't need a scaler. I'm not playing in the same league as guys with $$$ scalers. PC works fine for me.

I wouldn't wish a PC on a guy who just wants plug and play, or those pursuing the ultimate at any cost. But HD-DVD on my XG LC at 1080i 96hz (no judder) via my PC looks great to me.


Guys I'll dig up some Reclock instructions for driving a VBS script.

You need 3 timings sorted first (maybe 2 if you're in North America). One a multiple of 29.97, one a multiple of 23.976, and one a multiple of 50 (or 25) for Aussie/Euro sourced material.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark_A_W wrote:
What do modern scalers do that I need?

- Noise reduction? Don't need it, only watch HD.

- Custom & matched refresh rates/res's? Don't need it, PC does that.

- Deinterlacing? Only need Weave, PC does it fine.

- Scaling? Don't need it. 1920x1080 into 1920x1080 doesn't need spacial scaling, and the temporal conversion to 96i or 100i works fine on the PC.

- Gamma? PC does that.

- Switching? Only have one source.


I don't need a scaler. I'm not playing in the same league as guys with $$$ scalers. PC works fine for me.

I wouldn't wish a PC on a guy who just wants plug and play, or those pursuing the ultimate at any cost. But HD-DVD on my XG LC at 1080i 96hz (no judder) via my PC looks great to me.


Guys I'll dig up some Reclock instructions for driving a VBS script.

You need 3 timings sorted first (maybe 2 if you're in North America). One a multiple of 29.97, one a multiple of 23.976, and one a multiple of 50 (or 25) for Aussie/Euro sourced material.


Mark,
You got my attention.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reclock auto refresh rate change:
http://reclock.free.fr/bb/viewtopic.php?t=288
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From all your raving about it I think I should look into reclock. Smile Does it make a big difference with regular DVD's too?
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