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BradTheAggie · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 651 Location: Oak Point, Texas

I'm rewiring my HT room, ceiling mounting my Marquee, and placing my electronics in an adjacent closet. I need to run inwall wire for the front three speakers, and will need around 100' of cable. Right now I'm looking at PartsExpress 12 awg CL3 wire at around $36. Does anyone know where I could get 10 awg CL3 at a decent price? I'm sure 12 awg would work fine, but my surrounds are already wired with a fancy-pants brand of 10 awg cable (that is way too expensive for my current budget constraints), so if I can get that for not too much more, all the better...
Thanks!

Axatax · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject:

10awg is overkill and uncommon for speaker wire.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject:

Dude, you could jumpstart a car with 10 gauge.. Smile

OK, not quite, but 12-14 gauge is fine. For the surrounds I usually use 16.

Parts Express pricing is pretty good usually, but spending more than $.35 a foot for other than PVC jacketed Home Depot stuff is a waste of money (in my opinion).

zaphod · Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2002 Location: Cloverdale

BradTheAggie · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 651 Location: Oak Point, Texas

Blue Jeans has the Belden 5T00UP 10 awg for $.57/foot. It will cost about $72 for 110' delivered, so that's probably what I'll do.

My ears are WAY too fried from years of going to Dead Kennedy / Circle Jerk / Who / Ted Nugent / etc. concerts to discern any real difference. It really is a "my toy" kind of thing, and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Razz

I spent thousands of dollars on a Lexicon processor, Sunfire and Acurus amps and Dynaudio speakers. I'll spring an extra $35 on inwall wire, knowing I can't hear the difference, but what the hell!

zaphod · Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 2002 Location: Cloverdale

**kal** · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject:

I used the 12 AWG (green) Home Depot in-wall rated (CL2 or CL3 - can't remember) stuff. There's about 500' feet of it in my HT as each of the 5 speakers is approx 50' away and I bi-wire them all.

Kal

ecrabb · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject:

I bought Blue Jeans Twelve White (12 AWG), and was really impressed with their process and the Belden/BJC wire. The stuff came right away.

I saw this link on AVS one time to Roger Russell's page on speaker wire... very interesting reading. He covers all kinds of interesting things about ridiculously priced esoteric cable, etc. Most important to me, though was the table to show recommended wire gauge based on the length of the run.

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

I was well under 50' for all my runs, so I was fine for 12 ga.

SC

Chuck27 · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject:

I used a big spool of regular old 14/3 copper house wire. Works fine for me.

Chuck

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:

mack1 · Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 494 Location: SARNIA

What ever you use make sure it's O2 free and made in West Korea and the copper comes from the silver mines in western Iceland Mr. Green

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:51 am Post subject:

C'mon now Mack, you know the silver refinery in Eastern Iceland has far superior linearity in their long strand copper free silver bi wire cabling. Mr. Green

Chuck27 · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:58 am Post subject:

emdawgz1 · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 7949

Now Announcing!

Our Single Grain, Oxygen Free, Transparent Silver wire comes in an inwall version. Shocked

This is perfect for all High end inwall Speaker applications.

Our labs (re-opened) in W. Korea are working non-stop in filling backorders.

Order NOW!!! Thumbs Up

Available soon

Mr. Nucleo! produce your own perfectly clean nuclear power, from your kitchen scraps! Shocked

ecrabb · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject:

I can't believe you guys would even consider buying cables that haven't been cryogenically treated. All the Icelandic oxygen-free silver wire in the world isn't worth a hill of beans, unless the molecules have been organized and aligned by cryogenic treatment. You can't have all those molecules in complete disarray - your music won't be subtle or spacious, your midrange won't be focused, and the sound won't be coherent!!!

Geez, why do I even bother with you guys!?!!?

SC

Chuck27 · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject:

emdawgz1 · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 7949

Z-Photo · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject:

ecrabb · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject:

Oh, man - I forgot a smiley or a wink. Looks like a couple of you thought I was actually serious about the cryogenic treatment and the heaped-on "audiophile adjectives". I thought I poured it on enough that it would be obvious I was full of sh*t. Upon rereading it, I see now it looked pretty much like a post you might actually see in some nutty esoteric audiophile tweaker forum. Oops! Shocked

For the record, I was joking!

While we're OT with silly audiophile stuff, I'll share an image I created a few years ago. There was a thread on AVS where there was a discussion about crazy audiophile doodads... expensive tweaker doodads. Green markers, rocks, wooden knobs (seriously)... you know the stuff. Well, cable "elevators" came up (along with the predictable discussion about their dubiousness). It was these I think:

At least they're *only* $159 for a set of 8 - cheap by some crazy audio tweaker standards!!!

Anyway, in ripping apart the elevator product, somebody made reference to "some goddam cable fairies" - or the like - and I couldn't help myself.

I share with you, Cable Fairies... soon available in several sizes and colors - and various other states of undress. Your HT audio system will never sound the same with these babies on the floor. I'll have to get to work on an in-wall version.

SC

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:29 am Post subject: