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Clarence




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PostLink    Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: can you bump up the PM space? Reply with quote


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My mailbox filled up and I think it only had 25 messages or so.

Can you bump that up to 100 or more? I can't imagine it takes up too much disk space since they're simple text.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Clarence!

I bumped the inbox and sentbox from 25 to 50, and the savebox from 25 to 100.

I'd rather not bump the inbox/sentbox up higher then that since it's human nature to never erase inbox messages unless you run out of space. Smile

Sure it's just simple text, but we currently have ~300 users (with more each day) and 300 users x 100 messages each = 30K messages. At only, say, 300 bytes per message that's an extra 9mb of our 100mb database quota being eaten up by messages that are probably mostly useless since people never erase old messages until they have to (ie when their mailbox fills up). Once (if?) we get to 1000 or more users it just gets bigger. And given the fact that PM replies now automatically quote the last message, once you've been back and forth half a dozen times the message size keeps getting bigger and bigger.

By increasing the savebox size, people can still keep lots of important messages but by forcing them to move them manually and/or clean out their inbox of useless/old messages, it keeps the overall usage down.

Make sense?

Less for me to backup as well. Smile

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inbox and Sendbox have been bumped up to 100.
The Savebox has been bumped up to 200.

This is for all users.

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You only have a 100MB database allocation?? Is that still true now that you're on the dedicated server?

100MB is not much room for an active forum. Wonder if AVS has similar limits, which might explain their @%#%% archive strategy...
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal, did you give it up for ALL users? or just Club Members? Thumbs Down
you slut you. Thumbs Up
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garyfritz wrote:
You only have a 100MB database allocation?? Is that still true now that you're on the dedicated server?

Nope. No longer true. We're only limited by hard drive capacity and (see below).

garyfritz wrote:
100MB is not much room for an active forum. Wonder if AVS has similar limits, which might explain their @%#%% archive strategy...
Agreed. 100mb is not much. We're already at 50mb and we've only been around 7-8 months.

AVS wouldn't have such limits, but just like any application that uses a database, you have to keep it within a certain size in order to avoid performance problems. This is the only reason AVS archives. It's not because of lack of hard drive space (space is cheap), it's all about performance.

I don't know how large we can grow before I need to start archiving, but I bet we're still some ways off.

Hardware can also be upgraded and a decided database server (or cluster of servers) can be used, but of course this all costs money. I can 100% guarantee that you're not going to see this site and forum run on multiple servers anytime soon. Smile

I will most likely be doing exactly what AVS does - that is, take posts older then X days and move them to an archive (read only) forum. I figure we can most likely keep at least 2-3 years of threads going. Should be more then enough. Maybe more. We'll see how the server performance holds out. It might be as much as 5 years. All depends on how often you guys post and how many active users we have.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joust wrote:
Kal, did you give it up for ALL users? or just Club Members? Thumbs Down
you slut you. Thumbs Up
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*All* users have larger PM boxes. I did this about a month ago but came across this thread so I thought I'd post the updated info here.

Me being a slut has nothing to do with this forum. Very Happy

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI: A quick note about your inbox...

When it gets full, it doesn't warn you. Instead it simply drops off the last message. Same with the Sentbox.

No they never really 'fill up'. The number of messages is simply how many are kept.

Kal

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FIFO?
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup! (First in first out for those not in the hi-tech/computer industry) Smile

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