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Dancrt · Joined: 16 Sep 2017 Posts: 69

Anyone got a hdfury diva and tried hdr on there crt projector ??
Was going to order one but don’t know what to set the primary colours too
As apparently that needs to be done for Dolby vision and hdr excited about the idea
It can downscaling 4K to 1080p apparently

**kal** · Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:15 pm Post subject:

CRT projectors can't do HDR (as they can't do Rec.2020). Dolby Vision uses ITU-R Rec. 2020 or 2100 for the wide-gamut color space while HDR10 uses the Rec. 2020 color space. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video#Standards

Read my post here for more: http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=486476#486476

It's way too wide to consider doing on CRT.

Kal

Dancrt · Joined: 16 Sep 2017 Posts: 69

Nice post so a colour filtered barco 909 can do srgb?
The interesting thing for the fury diva is apparently it can map
Too what ever colour your device can do by putting in the
Coordinate of the primary’s ?
Or would this result in it being converted to plain SDR
Same as if played through Apple TV ?

I am curious as I tried Apple TV’s back to the future 4K
And ps5 Apple TV app and then ps5 UHD disk
And the uhd was more saturated possibly too much
Looked unnatural so was thinking there could be a balance

I haven’t been happy with increased saturation setting on
My dvdo vp50pro as dosnt seem to look right
And was already very happy with Apple TV then I noticed the
Difference when I tried uhd disk

**kal** · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:20 am Post subject:

Dancrt · Joined: 16 Sep 2017 Posts: 69

Yeah I watched some YouTube videos compairing bluray players and streaming
and ordered a Panasonic ub9000 as a result (looked better than oppo)
and figured
Would be worth investigating if there is a better way to convert
Hdr to sdr so thanks for tips after viewing hdr vs sdr videos on
YouTube some hdr looked better (had been converted to sdr odvously)
and I figure if I order a hdfury diva and it didn’t help I can sell it.

Thanks for info about rec709 any idea the exact primary’s they can produce ?
I know these beasts where from a different time but I can’t get the jvc dla I bought to work
(Brought broken) so for now barco 909 is it…

Thanks dan

**kal** · Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:37 pm Post subject:

Dancrt · Joined: 16 Sep 2017 Posts: 69

Yeah side note my Panasonic ub9000 came today
Haven’t had much of a chance to test but so far the video
Improvement that I can see is it’s soooo smooth
From Netflix to uhd I had micro stuttering on Apple TV and Sony
Bluray player and so far even still going though the dvdo vp50pro
It’s smooth on the panning shots where it would look like a frame or two
Would be doubled up every second on other devices this looks smooth as
And the build quality is amazing 🤩

The remote is best remote ever back lit heavy and clicks like a mouse

Highly recommend
It does say it’s converting hdr to sdr wonder what if any the hdfury diva will do

Dancrt · Joined: 16 Sep 2017 Posts: 69

The hdfury diva came today set to rec709 and
Dolby vision was just black crush tried profiles 1,2 and 13
All looks way to dark I probably should try harder probably a setting
But my network cable isn’t long enough to adjust things
While plugged in so to the back burner

Looks like you where right kal but curiously got the better of me

ElTopo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1608

Best choice on 4K with CRT is an Oppo 203.

My friends and i use this combination with excellent results.

Oppo 203 directly into the internal Moome card of the Marquee or external Fury II.

In my opinion the best tone mapping available for CRT if you want to go that way.

ElTopo

Dancrt · Joined: 16 Sep 2017 Posts: 69

Thanks yeah oppo players we here very expensive here
It was cheaper to buy a new ub9000 I’ve set it to low lumans projector
And it’s tone mapping is fantastic very noticeable better image than Apple TV
Still going though vp50pro to sharpen it slightly very happy now

Would be interested to see comparisons on crt between bluray players
Wasn’t untill I saw compaired on you tube that I had any idea
It mattered what your bluray players did I thought it would have been
Source direct hdmi … I was wrong

A oppo uhd here on eBay Australia would have been $8,000 for a as new
$2000 used.
Or a older just 1080p bluray one $1,000 or a old 803 $500
So I settled on the Panasonic and I’m very impressed the
Menu system for streaming is terrible and slow but video
Playback is fantastic and was under $1,500

ElTopo · Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1608

I also used the Pana first but went the Oppo route then.

Another big plus of the Oppo is the HDMI IN port which i feed over my AV receiver output.

All my devices like apple tv, sky,... will be processed over the Oppo incl. HDR to SDR tone mapping.

cheers
ElTopo

Dancrt · Joined: 16 Sep 2017 Posts: 69

Oh wow didn’t know it would tone map the Apple TV noooooooo
I want it now …. Wanna swap ?