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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:45 pm Post subject: Barco 909 lost its focus |
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HI ,
Can anybody please advice me on this issue.
Before the whole focus issue, the projector suffered a shutdown, and a red led lit up on the EHT board.
After swapping out the quad and eht, the splitter was found to be the culprit.
But after replacing the splitter , it started to had issues with the image,
and i found on the vertical board the red led lighting up intermittently.
I was able to swap in a good vertical board and then the replaced splitter caused another shutdown.
Had to put in another good splitter, and now the image is intermittently slightly going in and out of focus,
as if there is someone moving the magnetic yokes back and forth millimeter by millimeter.
And so i had to swap focus boards,
After swapping focus board ,
the modulating still remained, and the focus was still very good
( midpoint foucs on all CRts were at 21).
i then had to swap in a whole convergence tray, this included the focus board, controller boards , astig board etc.
This is when the 909 really can not focus well anymore, i ramped up the midpoint focus adjustment both ways,
it was at first was tolerable , but kept getting blurrier as the modulating also kept going.
Only the neck boards and coils i have not swapped.
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r.bauer
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 278 Location: The Netherlands
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Link Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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EHT problems/fluctuations will lead to changes in focus. EHT voltage can be measured, but you can do it only safe when you have the proper probe.
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Yes , i checked the coaxial cable on the splitter , it measured 34v dc.
Thanks for the input.
r.bauer wrote: | EHT problems/fluctuations will lead to changes in focus. EHT voltage can be measured, but you can do it only safe when you have the proper probe. |
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r.bauer
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 278 Location: The Netherlands
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Maybe check the high voltage also?
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:59 am Post subject: |
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r.bauer wrote: | Maybe check the high voltage also? |
The 34v on the coax should confirm 34kV HV is ok.
i do not have a high voltage test probe anyway,
I just do not know where to look in the HV stages anymore.
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:39 pm Post subject: out of focus pic |
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Here is the picture of my out of focus 909,
It is also shaky or modulating,
real HV issues that i can not find.
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:44 pm Post subject: another pic |
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here is another shot
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24305 Location: Langley, BC
TV/Projector: All of them!
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Do the electronic focus controls (especially the middle zone) have any effect on all 3 tubes?
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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yes, using the menu to access midpoint focusing ,
it helps but maxed out at 99, still very soft and blurry.
original focus for all three guns based on throw distance was 19 to 23 only.
i disconnected the focus leads from focus coils to board,
it is just a bit more blurry ,it is showing that the focusing electronic circuit is not helping by much.
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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also swapped out three controller boards, still can not trace the issue.
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Hulio
Joined: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 469 Location: Belgium
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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I know it sounds stupid, but have you checked the optical focus too ? Sometimes, if the focus knobs on the lenses are nor firmly tighten, they can drift....
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hulio wrote: | I know it sounds stupid, but have you checked the optical focus too ? Sometimes, if the focus knobs on the lenses are nor firmly tighten, they can drift.... |
Hi Hulio,
Nope nothing wrong there.
but it can happen to me hehehe
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jaredjaric
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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is there such a thing as a failing coil on all three ?
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Hulio
Joined: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 469 Location: Belgium
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Nah, a focus coil can fail indeed, but the odds that all three are giving up at the same time, are close to 0.
Is a hard one, given the fact that you swapped every board...Could be a burned component or bad contact on the mainboard ??
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2857 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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A bad splitter will cause this. Can you hear any buzzing from the splitter. I see that you have changed that and then your focus problems began. They go bad internally and arc and focus is uncontrollable.
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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km987654 wrote: | A bad splitter will cause this. Can you hear any buzzing from the splitter. I see that you have changed that and then your focus problems began. They go bad internally and arc and focus is uncontrollable. |
Hi ,
Yes it is the splitter again and again and again.
i had this same issue two years ago,
just could not believe in successive splitter fail two years apart.
Each incident needed multiple splitters to get it.
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:16 pm Post subject: the line up of guilty splitters |
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the line up :
the second one is up for an operation
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jaredjaric
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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am doing it all for this.
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ElTopo
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_________________ Barco Cine 9 the one and only
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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for Furs and wrinkles??
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