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**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:43 am Post subject:

**kal** · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:10 pm Post subject:

**kal** · Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: Any PC Gamers Out There?

Phil Smith · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 7717

A lot of info to process. Forgive me if I missed some of it.

Jeremy, I will replace the thermal paste. I have some somewhere.

Kal, great links! Thanks! I've been looking at them at work as I've had time.

I've played around with settings some more tonight. I can't run higher than 60Hz without making things worse.

I just got through implementing this video's recommendations. It actually helped. I thought it was going to prove to be a waste of time but it worked. I went from low 40s to low 50s frame rate to low 50s to high 50s. At that rate it looks pretty decent.

The CPU and GPU still runs high and sometimes both max out, but they don't seem to be getting as hot. The fans have been running at normal levels. Not sure why that is. I forgot to look at the temps. I'll do that tomorrow.

So Kal, if my video card should be able to do higher than 60Hz and it clearly won't, then my CPU is the bottleneck and a better video card won't help?

**kal** · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:36 pm Post subject:

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO

For the gamers out there, my son is all agog at the new video cards coming out from Nvidia. He says the 3070 is faster than ANYthing in the previous generation, and it's only $500. They're shooting for 8k 60fps.

**kal** · Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:59 pm Post subject:

The new 30x0 models do sound impressive! Everyone seems happy about them other than Hitler given that he just bought a 2080 a couple of months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKneUFwVkXI

Note: 8K resolution at 60 FPS performance is the highest end RTX 3090 which will launch at a whopping $1500. 350W power consumption too. Crazy!

Kal

Phil Smith · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 7717

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 1:13 am Post subject:

I've owned many of those left hand keyboards they are handy. I like having one in my lap top bag.

Phil Smith · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 7717

Yeah I just played with it and it's pretty cool!

I really, really suck at playing video games, but last night I came in 4th in a match and never fired a shot. I just hung around the perimeter as long as the storm would allow me and ran like hell the rest of the time.

Interesting that the first time I play after booting the computer, the game renders poorly and the frame rate is low. After 2 or 3 more rounds everything improves and stays that way. I'm consistently staying in the low to high 50's Hz, which my grandson will be fine with.

I don't understand the high frame rates such as 120Hz. I have a 60Hz TV. How can anything higher than that be an improvement?

Phil Smith · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 7717

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:58 am Post subject:

Didn't see your post. I was too busy playing with a computer.

I remember high frame rates and yes I could see where that would reduce lag but I game on CRT's so the crazy high frame rates over the monitors refresh rate I never really considered. Interesting for sure.

Phil Smith · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 7717

That is an interesting reason for the high refresh rates.

I Thoght about yanking the MB and CPU out of my DAW and install them in the gaming computer. Thought that I might upgrade the DAW.

I looked up the MB and CPU. They are an i7 3820 3.6GHz 4 core CPU and a P9X79 Pro MB.

The MBs are selling used on ebay for ~ $200. That's surprising! I guess it's still good for something. It does have 8 RAM slots. Maybe that has something to do with it.

So I thought I'd keep the MB and upgrade the CPU The current CPU is only bringing ~$50. But for DAW use, single core speed matters the most because of the way audio is processed and the way the mixing channels in the DAW work. My CPU will over clock to ~ 4.6GHZ. If I remember correctly I was running it at 4.4GHZ with no problems. Didn't even run very hot.

It's an LGA2011 socket and I can get 6 core CPUs that will work, but they're only slightly faster. So they really won't improve my DAW performance much.

So much for that idea.

Phil Smith · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 7717

Another question. I turned off Windows updates as that was suggested and it makes sense. Last time I played Fortnite, when I went to turn the PC off there was an update notice! I did have some unexplained excessive lag while playing, so it might been down loading while I was playing.

Any suggestions on that?

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:22 am Post subject:

Switch to Linux, you update when YOU want and they don't continuously stream everything you do to Microshits servers in Brasil.

Yes, I am jaded. I have spent 25+ years cleaning spyware and viruses off of PC's. Then Miroturd decides to BUILD IT INTO the OS. Fk them!

Phil Smith · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 7717

I've never tried Linux. IT seems like it has it's own set of headaches.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:00 pm Post subject:

If you want to try it you can install it alongside windows, boot it off a usb stick or run it off a live dvd.

I use POP OS 64, Pepermint 10, and Mint 19.3.
Mint is the most traditional. That is, it looks like Win7, Pepermint is similar but with less stuff included and POP OS is more for touch screen devices but runs the fastest of the three. Mint is a very full featured operating system. There is a software repository where you can access man different types of software and most of the time all the hardware drivers are built into the OS. Notable exception is some odd WiFi cards - the only thing Mint never found in all my testing across man PC's.

Yes there can be headaches, but Linux has come along way in the last 10 years in terms of usability. I converted our office PC's to Mint full time this year. Previously we had dual boot systems with Windows full of viruses despite active antivirus running at all times. Linux has less viruses, less spyware, Ubuntu proper from Canocal does do some spying so fk them I don't use it. There are dozens of types ( flavours ) of linux. I've tried many many types and have had good luck with those listed above.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=u4I-igkPnsY&feature=emb_logo

**kal** · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:20 pm Post subject:

Linux is a great and stable environment, but not one you'd want to use if you care about gaming, unless you're not overly fussy and only want to play a small list of games. Wink

For example, Fortnite doesn't run on it. It only runs on: Windows, macOS, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X, iOS, Android.

Reason being that Linux accounts for less than 1% of platforms used for gaming. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming#Market_share

Kal

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:21 pm Post subject:

There are tons of games for linux. Not like it was in years past. However there are still some games that won't play nice in Linux.

That's why you can do a dual boot setup. Only use Windoze for gaming and while your at it put in the HOST file that stops the spying.

https://www.andreafortuna.org/2020/03/13/how-to-block-windows-10-telemetry-using-hosts-file/
https://www.encrypt-the-planet.com/downloads/hosts

I tested this and it seems windows 10 worked fine and you can still get the damned updates. Then that box got a China virus hijack and I threw it in the pile and grabbed another one that is Linux only.

...and my bad for not looking at Fortnights requirements...(almost)Everything but Linux

Phil Smith · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 7717

It seems like it would be easier to work on defeating Windows spying.

Linux sounds like a fun project, but I already have too many of those at the moment.

PS: I was surprised to see that Minecraft will run on Linux.