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Robbo
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Crystalio II VPS-3800 scaler with internal media player
was used to drive my Barco 1209s for several years
bought new from dutch importer
in good condition (cut from power when not used)
has RGBHV out to drive a CRT
complete in original box, with both remotes, manuals etc.
Will ship worldwide, insured at low cost
Location: The Netherlands
Price: looking for 500 euro + shipping
Insured shipping cost to USA approx. 60 euro. Europe approx. 35 euro.
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Luuk neele
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i have absolutely no idea what such a thing is worth, i am in the netherlands too. setting up an ampro for use in the living room, i might need a scaler to effortlessly connect my gear to it.
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Nashou66
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Luuk neele
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i already have a hdmi switch/splitter/audio extractor, i dont know if it strips HDCP however.
its the one from monoprice (4xhdmi splitter with audio toslink)
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barclay66
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Hi,
If You don't find an agreement with robbo, I have a DVDO iScan VP50 Pro and a DVDO iScan VP30 that I won't be needing soon. Both should fit Your needs.
The splitter that Nash mentioned is different to the one You wrote about. It's a very simple device (one HDMI input and two HDMI output) which 'accidentially' omits HDCP when put into the HDMI signal path.
It is necessary as otherwise the Crystalio (and the DVDOs) will only output a black picture when connecting a Blu Ray player at the HDMI input and the CRT projector at the output (output device not seen as HDCP compliant)...
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barclay66
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Luuk neele
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i get it, but i also need some device to strip the digital audio to route it to my HT receiver set 
the plan is to connect my ps3 and my mediaplayer by hdmi cable to a switch/hdcpstripper and then connect that to a scaler which will hook up to the projetcor by rgbhv. then ill need to strip the digital audio from the HDMI and route that to my optical or coaxial input on my HT receiver.
so either i'll need a scaler like this and put a hdmi stripper on the main inputs, or i need some other solution.
i absolutely need to have digital audio separation from the HDMI input.
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Nashou66
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barclay66
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| Luuk neele wrote: | | i absolutely need to have digital audio separation from the HDMI input. |
Hi,
This is something that most scalers will do too. As the scaling and other picture processing will take some miliseconds, most of the better scalers have an adjustable audio delay incorporated. So audio processing and extraction is one of the side results. The Crystalio and the DVDOs have it...
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barclay66
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barclay66
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| Nashou66 wrote: | | the Splitter does that. |
Nope. The $25 splitter has no audio ouputs, so no audio extraction. The only benefits are HDCP stripping and a bit of signal amplification...
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barclay66
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Nashou66
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| Link Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| barclay66 wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | | the Splitter does that. |
Nope. The $25 splitter has no audio ouputs, so no audio extraction. The only benefits are HDCP stripping and a bit of signal amplification...
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That splitter says it does audio even DTS and Dolby true HD and LPM 7.1
Black Full HDMI 1 in 2 Out 3D Splitter Amplifier Repeater 1080p Female
Condition: Brand new
Color: Black
Features :
HDMI version : HDMI 1.3
3D Compatible (If your devices support 3D)
Support compressed and uncompressed digital audio formats including DTS-HD , Dolby True HD and LPCM7.1
Cascaded: Large distribution achieved by cascading more HDMI amplifier splitter
Supports HDCP, 8bit per channel (24bit all channel) deep color
This 1x2 HDMI splitter distributes the HDMI source to 2 identical, synchronized outputs.
This splitter offers HD video solution for super market, shopping center, HDTV, STB, DVD, information distribution, conference room presentation, school and corporate training environment.
Specifications:
Input Video Signal: 0.5 -1.0 volts p-p
Input DDC Signal: 5 volts p-p (TTL)
Max Single Link Range: 1920X1080, 1080P; 3D 1080/24HZ
Output Video: HDMI 1.3 + HDCP1.0/1.1/1.2
DVI: 480p/576p/720p/1080i/1080p(50HZ;60HZ); 3D 1080P/24HZ
Resolutions DTV/HDTV: 480p/576p/720p/1080i/1080p(50HZ;60HZ); 3D 1080P/24HZ
Operating Frequency: Up to 225MHz
EIDI Duration: 4 seconds
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Luuk neele
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it appears to have no digital audio out nashou
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barclay66
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| Nashou66 wrote: | | That splitter says it does audio even DTS and Dolby true HD and LPM 7.1 |
Yes. But that's related to the audio stream that it will distribute inside the HDMI signal. There's no extraction to any additional output for the audio signal. And an additional audio output is exactly what Luuk is looking for...
| Nashou66 wrote: | | This 1x2 HDMI splitter distributes the HDMI source to 2 identical, synchronized outputs. |
Not more, no less...
| Nashou66 wrote: | | Output Video: HDMI 1.3 + HDCP1.0/1.1/1.2 |
HDMI connectors only, no audio connectors for any extracted signal...
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barclay66
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Luuk neele
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| Link Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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that is also not desirable.
i could use this scaler, i would connect both my sources to the splitter which strips hdcp, then route the output of that splitter into one of the hdmi inputs in the scaler. then output via the RGBHV on the scaler to the PJ. while taking the digital audio out of the scaler and connecting that to my HT receiver.
also this scaler says "hdcp" at the hdmi inputs, which leads me to believe that this puppy has HDCP capability, so if you route a HDCP enabled device into the input ports, the encryption should stay and it should output image via RGBHV out no problem, as the scaler is the last video device in the chain.
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barclay66
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| Luuk neele wrote: | | i would connect both my sources to the splitter which strips hdcp, then route the output of that splitter into one of the hdmi inputs in the scaler |
Hi,
This won't work. It's a splitter, so it has one input and two outputs. It doesn't work the other way around.
If You have two sources which carry a HDCP encrypted signal You will need two splitters. Their second output is always left unconnected when they are used for HDCP stripping. I have three and could add two of them to the DVDO. I would test this setup with two Blu Ray players before shipment...
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barclay66
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Luuk neele
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sorry i mistook the splitter for having two in out
this will not work indeed.
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