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Hi all,
i bought a DVX8022 some weeks ago but my room will not fit to setup the blend.
Here's your chance to get a super condition DVX8022 edge blend unit which can do a blend with 2 crt projectors either horizontal or verctial.
Super easy setup which is self-explained.
There is a software available from analog way which runs perfectly under Win7 (RS-232 USB Adatper to Serial needed).
Road case is included in which the DVX8022 is mounted right now (case can be closed on both sides).
Price: 1250$ obo incl. shipping
Shipment will be double boxed additionally for safe shipment.
If you have questions let me know
cheers
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Tim in Phoenix
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Guys
I will help the buyer of this get it going, as I have used one for twelve years and have written a setup guide.
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Damn, I have 2 never used Barco Cine 9 now in storage, I have also dreamt to try blending. This is really tempting. Have to do some research. DAMN.
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Tim in Phoenix
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Imagine a screen ten feet wide. So bright you can't stand it! LOL
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So I understand that by blending you're able to use use more of the tube phosphor area since the image displayed by each of the 2 units is more 4x3 ratio instead of 16x9 (or 2.35:1) and tubes are historically made for 4x3 images. More phosphor in use = more light.
So how much % extra light output (brightness) are people actually seeing by using more phosphor? On a 10' wide screen how many foot lamberts should be expected when blending?
Note: Blending is not to be confused with stacking where the light output is exactly doubled because each projector displays the same image.
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| kal wrote: | So I understand that by blending you're able to use use more of the tube phosphor area since the image displayed by each of the 2 units is more 4x3 ratio instead of 16x9 (or 2.35:1) and tubes are historically made for 4x3 images. More phosphor in use = more light.
So how much % extra light output (brightness) are people actually seeing by using more phosphor? On a 10' wide screen how many foot lamberts should be expected when blending?
Note: Blending is not to be confused with stacking where the light output is exactly doubled because each projector displays the same image.
Kal |
A similar question was raised not long ago:
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=482624#482624
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Thanks! I didn't think the light output when blending would actually increase that much (if at all), which is why I asked.
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The caveat is that you can't do a blend on very small screens, 10 feet wide is the very low side, plus it needs considerably more effort in setup, better matching between the projectors, cost of instrumentation etc.
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| gjaky wrote: | | The caveat is that you can't do a blend on very small screens, 10 feet wide is the very low side, plus it needs considerably more effort in setup, better matching between the projectors, cost of instrumentation etc. |
Agreed. Explains why few do it anymore.  (No offence to those trying - it's definitely an interesting experiment).
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| gjaky wrote: |
The caveat is that you can't do a blend on very small screens, 10 feet wide is the very low side, plus it needs considerably more effort in setup, better matching between the projectors, cost of instrumentation etc. |
Blending is not intended for smallish screens. You can push the projectors forward until they touch for an eight foot screen width, mine is nine foot. The throw formula ends up around 0.9 for the largest image in a smaller space. Setup is much easier than side-stacking, the projectors shoot straight ahead for minimal geometry correction and only the overlap zone in the middle of the screen is fussy for alignment.
Light output is absurd; about three times the apparent punch of one projector on the same screen size.
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| Tim in Phoenix wrote: | | Light output is absurd; about three times the apparent punch of one projector on the same screen size. |
How many ftL are you targeting? I would assume you're able to hit 14 ftL? SMPTE recommends 14-16 ftL (depends on how you interpret) for a projected image. I target 14 ftL myself. Below 11-12 ftL I find it looks dull. Some won't consider anything under 20!
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Say Kal
I don't own the test gear so I can't give a scientific answer. On white scenes like Winter Olympics, it is all you can stand with contrast 52, and that's with 5000 hours on the tubes LOL
Push a nine inch projector in for a six foot width, and that's a good approximation of the brightness of ten foot blended.
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1200$ shipped
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Reducing price to 750$ obo !
Please ask for shipping costs depending your country.
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