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Mendo
Joined: 25 Jan 2018 Posts: 9 Location: Northern California
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:20 am Post subject: Some input please |
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In the last few months my buddies and I have been watching and enjoying my G90 I purchased from Curt a few years ago. He drove down, did a quick set up, and I haven't touched the settings since save for some convergence touching-up. The picture is incredible. It's a small screen (can't remember off-hand) but about 90-100" if memory serves. Other than a touch of softness, I can't complain. It is crazy film like. The projector doesn't have to work real hard with the smaller screen and near-complete blackness of the room.
I'm about to buy a new Oppo 203 bluray machine to replace the aging Panny in the system. It has quite a few more settings than the Panny. Could somebody guide me here on what to select for the output frequency, color space etc? I'm an analog audio guy, so the video stuff is relatively foreign for me. Lastly, will this thing be of any benefit:
https://www.hdfury.com/product/vertex-4k60-444-600mhz/
FWIW, the G90 has a Moome card. Thanks a bunch. I know there a fewer of you CRT junkies every year, but the knowledge of you've all acquired is mind-boggling. Lastly, I need to do the fan mods. The thing is LOUD.
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ElTopo
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
i use 1080p@60 with 10-bit and 4:2:0
You can also use 1080@24 but you then need a scaler to do 48,72 or 96Hz.
cheers
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HaydnG90
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'd certainly recommend a professional calibration using a high quality pro grade colorimeter. It transformed my picture. I'm also running 1080/72 through a Lumagen XE+, which again bumped performance noticeably. That softness you mentioned is virtually gone when viewing high-quality transfers. My source is an Oppo 105D. The G90 can really sing when its set up properly to maximize its capabilities. btw I'm projecting onto a smallish 100" diag screen too,in a fully light controlled room.
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Mendo
Joined: 25 Jan 2018 Posts: 9 Location: Northern California
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks ElTopo and HaydnG90. Those responses are very helpful. I think much of the softness is because of the focal distance of the material more than anything. When I watch excellent film transfers or HD video and the focus is sharp and the subject is "near" it looks pretty sharp I must say. Its picture reminds me of a giant version of my Sony 34" XBR-960 CRT 16:9 tv. I lsp loved the picture on that set. It and the G90 have a depth that my calibrated Panny Plasma (last of them) doesn't and it has a picture that's only bettered by the new OLEDs. While the new OLEDs I know have near-perfect blacks I wonder if that perceived depth has improved?
Lastly, I would love to have somebody calibrate this thing. If anyone knows of anybody in the SF bay area that has the skill and desire let me know. I am 2 hours north of the Golden Gate Bridge. Thanks again guys for the input.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 17860 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Mendo
Joined: 25 Jan 2018 Posts: 9 Location: Northern California
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:34 am Post subject: |
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Kal, you got me. I'm going to go for the DIY calibration, The Radiance looks incredible, but a little too rich for me right now. I think with your excellent right-up I can do this. Do I need to get into the expert mode menu, or just the standard menu?
While I've got an expert captive audience, what causes the vertical streaking I'm seeing in light sky scenes?
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 17860 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Mendo wrote: | Kal, you got me. I'm going to go for the DIY calibration, The Radiance looks incredible, but a little too rich for me right now. I think with your excellent right-up I can do this. Do I need to get into the expert mode menu, or just the standard menu? |
Not sure actually, as I've never owned a Sony. You'll need access to the Bias and Gain controls and few other things. I don't think they're too deeply hidden.
Not sure about the streaking issue.
Kal
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Mendo
Joined: 25 Jan 2018 Posts: 9 Location: Northern California
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Kal. I'll do some searching or ask about the streaking in a different thread.
Just noticed your brewing guide. How I've never gotten deeply into that hobby I'll never know. I love beer.
Cheers,
Matt
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dvh99
Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:30 am Post subject: |
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best to ask mike parker or craig rounds about the streaking, the 1292 showed plenty and the g90 in lesser degree i suppose but youll need modified board(s) to eliminate this.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 26690 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:52 am Post subject: |
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What happened to the guy that use to make the 1292 streaking mod chips?
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2790 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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AnalogRocks wrote: | What happened to the guy that use to make the 1292 streaking mod chips? |
My guess is that he got so rich on those mods, that he is sitting on his money and don't looking back at CRT projectors anymore...
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Mendo
Joined: 25 Jan 2018 Posts: 9 Location: Northern California
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Kal,
I was sitting down to order up the calibration disc you linked above and am a bit confused. The calibration disc is a bluray disc which contains the test patterns, correct? Then in the link you provided it says that you need a Windows machine for the software. Why the bluray disc and the computer software both? Doesn't the bluray calibration disc have all the the test patterns? Do you use them in combination? Sorry I'm not figuring this out–I even read through the calibration thread all the way through.
Matt
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 17860 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Mendo wrote: | I was sitting down to order up the calibration disc you linked above and am a bit confused. The calibration disc is a bluray disc which contains the test patterns, correct? |
Correct.
Quote: | Then in the link you provided it says that you need a Windows machine for the software. |
Correct. ChromaPure software (the software that reads and graphs what your meter sees) runs in Windows.
Quote: | Why the bluray disc and the computer software both? Doesn't the bluray calibration disc have all the the test patterns? Do you use them in combination? Sorry I'm not figuring this out–I even read through the calibration thread all the way through. |
You use a meter to meter light levels. It plugs into your computer that runs the ChromaPure is software that graphs/measures these light levels.
You use a pattern disc in your Blu-ray player to display patterns on your display for the meter to read.
Kal
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Mendo
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Link Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Of course, as soon as I posted I figured it out. For some reason I thought the light meter might give stand alone readings that you could reference in a table somewhere. Kal, I would like to buy you a beer!
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kal Forum Administrator
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