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wassup30
Joined: 14 Jun 2017 Posts: 30
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:05 pm Post subject: Sony G90 for parts |
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Welp I received a 66 code on the back of my G90, the G90 that I've been struggling with different problems since I bought it. I've upgraded to a JVC X970R and WOW .... I had the G90 finally configured nicely and this thing blows it out of the water!!! To give you an idea of the quality I have a Pioneer Kuro upstairs that I've been watching for the last 10 years. This projector is as good if anything slightly better than the picture quality of the Kuro ..... Even as of writing this I still can't get over the picture quality! Best decision I ever made to ditch the g90 for the JVC
Anyways I have a g90 whose tubes are fresh and boards etc .... if someone wants the whole thing or piece meal it just let me know. You can have it for cheap cheap cheap!!!
Big thanks to this forum for all your help with this g90!
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 17850 Location: Ottawa, Canada
TV/Projector: JVC DLA-NZ7
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wassup30
Joined: 14 Jun 2017 Posts: 30
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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kal wrote: | Congrats on the JVC X970R! That's a nice projector! (I'm a few generations behind with my RS56 but am still wowed by the image).
Good luck on the G90 parts sale.
Kal |
Thanks! :--)
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2251 Location: The Netherlands
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Funny I just sold my Sony uhd tv for a kuro and this is much better and huge wow factor. However my barco 909 is still better
But I mean they do that those new screens. They give you a wow untill you find out about the eye strain and possible damage of blue leds and you see a good calibrated dark scen on crt or plasma kuro.
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HaydnG90
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1335
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Most of my viewing is still on a Kuro KRP-600M. Love the image quality. Have to say with the right material my calibrated G90 running 1080/72 with MP's BA board mods is not very far behind. No intentions of giving up the G90 anytime soon.
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2251 Location: The Netherlands
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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From what I know in the past these digital projectors use gamma tricks to make the blacks and that always resulted in banding in black scenes. Do not know if they finally solved that problem but yesterday I watched some darkscenes very deep and dark and no banding that make me happy
By the way the darbee processing in the oppo is something I do use as it sharpens a little more when the hardware is not capable of being modded into faster response. Darbee does really make the testimages of 1 on 1 smpte a little better and is very visible.
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wassup30
Joined: 14 Jun 2017 Posts: 30
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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redfox001 wrote: | From what I know in the past these digital projectors use gamma tricks to make the blacks and that always resulted in banding in black scenes. Do not know if they finally solved that problem but yesterday I watched some darkscenes very deep and dark and no banding that make me happy
By the way the darbee processing in the oppo is something I do use as it sharpens a little more when the hardware is not capable of being modded into faster response. Darbee does really make the testimages of 1 on 1 smpte a little better and is very visible. |
I had the last generation highest quality Kuro they ever made the 111fd. It has fared me very well and I won't be getting rid of it until it eventually kicks the bucket. The quality of that TV was better than the g90 for sure. Not banging on CRTs with my previous statement all i'm saying is I had a sony g90 setup looking real nice, or what I thought was real nice, then without changing any other component or source material or resolution (kept it at 1080p with the same content) was viewing the same material and was SHOCKED at how much better it was .... bottom line if you have the dollars these new JVCs in a dedicated room is worth EVERY PENNY and the setup was like 45 seconds not 5-8 hours. Literally 45 seconds ... it was a joke.
That being said if you don't have the dollars to spend CRT is still the king in the $2500 price range, IF you are willing to put in the required time and effort to get it there, but I guess that goes without saying lol.
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Jeremy112
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2645 Location: Fond du Lac, WI
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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So what do you want for the tubes? My green and blue have very slight wear patterns, yours are mint/no wear?
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wassup30
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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my green is mint mint mint! 50 hours on it .... Blue and red have about 500 hours on it.
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4264 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I am always in the market for YA boards. Error 60 may very well be a bad YA board and bad IC421...
Shoot me an email with a price craigr@cir-engineering.com
Thanks,
Craig
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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Link Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats on the new JVC. They are nice pjs.
JVC announced the CMD fix at Cedia. It shows banding with frame interpolation turned on. If you don't use it, then it isn't an issue. You might still want to get the fix for resale value in the future.
The new models are basically a minor update of the current line up. You aren't missing anything with this model.
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2251 Location: The Netherlands
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Link Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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wassup30 wrote: |
I had the last generation highest quality Kuro they ever made the 111fd. It has fared me very well and I won't be getting rid of it until it eventually kicks the bucket. The quality of that TV was better than the g90 for sure. |
Hi one question. Does somebody know if the Pioneer Kuro PDP-LX5090H is the same as the 111fd? Perhaps something with an European name? I can not seem to find this information.
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redfox001
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Link Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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After some more reading it seems the KRP-500A or M is the same picture quality as the 111fd roughly.
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HaydnG90
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1335
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Link Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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The KRP-500M(A) had a rather obvious red push that couldn't be dialed out which had a neg impact on CR. Luckily the 600M (60" version) doesn't suffer the same design issue and has been a much better performer than my previous 500M.
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2251 Location: The Netherlands
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Link Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! By the way do you know the maximum number of hours a Kuro can have and still produce a nice picture? I have heard 60000 hours is the life span. Is that true?
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redfox001
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Link Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a KRP-600A and now have both the KRP-500A and 600A. One can serve as parts plasma when something breaks down. The 600A has 11000 hours. Its contrast is still perfect as far as I could measure, as new. The blacks are deeper that the 500A. Man this one might be as good in blacks as my Barco 909 CRT!!! Very happy with it for the price I paid Thanks for the advise.
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HaydnG90
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1335
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Link Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats. I love the image of the KRP-600M and I'm just using the DNice standard cal settings. I chose not to get it professionally ISF calibrated as I like the image so much and didn't want to mess with what I'm seeing. One positive moving to the 60 incher is that I'm a lot more particular now with what I watch on the G90. I get enjoyment watching a lot of content on the plasma panel.
I bought it used locally 18 months ago for $400 and the panel has 8000hrs. The 500M I sold had 3000hrs and the image was a lot more washed out due to the red push.
I'm not sure if there are many parts that are interchangeable between the two chassis. Weak points seem to be PS (the 500M had a crackily PS which was irritating but still worked) and HDMI input board.
I also read that the panels are good for 60000+hrs. I think other components are likely to fail well before you notice any issues with the panel itself.
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redfox001
Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2251 Location: The Netherlands
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Link Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Just calibrated the 600 and the Pure mode is very accurate. I have never seen a gamma that straight! The colours are very close too, I have colour on +2 to get the best red faces but everything at 0 is ok too. Almost perfect tracking all the way Slight corrections in manual colour temperature (greyscale).
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redfox001
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Link Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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HAve to tell you guys I found a 600A with close to 500 hours. It is as good as new. The former owner got it as a thirteenth month put it on the attic to start a homecinema but was not a tv guy at all. It just stood there. He did not know how to read the hours as it is complicated with the 600A, you have to use a serial cable and an adapter. Than you have to find the commands in the service manual. So he said something like 30 hours and that was a bit to low estimated. I checked the brightness of the panels, the dust in the fans and yes I am convinced! So now I have two 600A for the next 10/20 years of dry desert that are coming Also a 500A for parts or for resell. Remember guys " Winter is coming" Call me crazy
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gjaky
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Link Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Winter is coming... so you just turn on the Kuro and no need for the fireplace anymore to feel the warmth (just like with the CRT) LOL
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