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the big E
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 1928 Location: speedwell Tn.
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Link Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Bypass straight to the projector and see what it does.
Some don'5 do handshakes well with certain gear(been there before with a digital projector)
Cm has a point on the switchers they are cheap(I use one on my tv in my bedroom)
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larryp
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: eden prairie mn
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Link Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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Sony card has two inputs. So you're saying run the hdmi cable from say the dvd player to the moome card instead of going thru the receiver? If so, how would I get audio then?
I don't understand this stuff like you guys do. Thanks
cmjohnson wrote: | I suggest bypassing the receiver and going from video source direct to the projector. See how that works.
I don't have any direct experience with the Sony version Moome card, but the Marquee version has two HDMI inputs,
and if the Sony version does as well, consider running two sources to the projector (if you need two) and switch via the Moome remote.
There is also always the possibility of using a multi-port HDMI switch. They're not expensive. |
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the big E
Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 1928 Location: speedwell Tn.
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Link Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Just try and see if the pic doesn't act up.
That's what we was wanting to find out.
It's possible that the av recivier isn't playing nice with the rest of your gear.
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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
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Link Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hang on, Larry... Before you start messing with cables... Do you ever have trouble with the picture when you're watching content, or does it *only* happen when you try to access the setup screen on the Denon?
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larryp
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: eden prairie mn
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Link Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Only when I try to adjust a setting. Everything works fine if hooked up to my PC Monitor thou.
Tonight I plugged the dvd player into the moome card so both inputs were used, No difference, Tried to adjust speaker volumes and lost the picture
ecrabb wrote: | Hang on, Larry... Before you start messing with cables... Do you ever have trouble with the picture when you're watching content, or does it *only* happen when you try to access the setup screen on the Denon?
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 17850 Location: Ottawa, Canada
TV/Projector: JVC DLA-NZ7
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Tim in Phoenix
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 4378 Location: Phoenix
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Link Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm
I don't get why short cables cause any sort of problem. I am running several two-footers in and out of a Moome MUX with no issues at all.
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kal Forum Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 17850 Location: Ottawa, Canada
TV/Projector: JVC DLA-NZ7
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Link Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Tim in Phoenix wrote: | I don't get why short cables cause any sort of problem. I am running several two-footers in and out of a Moome MUX with no issues at all. |
It's a known issue Tim. To quote Jim Peterson who designed the Radiance line of video processors:
"We have certainly had few cases where I asked people go to 10 or even 15 feet for HDMI cables and that has resolved the issues. I can only attribute this to the HDMI cable equalization. The EQ is a static EQ and so the HDMI chip design must set up for a “nominal” cable length. Given the range of lengths that seem to work the best, I estimate the nominal length for the EQ is in the range of 15 to 20 feet for the center point."
Just because you have cases where a short 2 foot cable will work, doesn't mean that it'll always work in all cases in all setups.
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larryp
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: eden prairie mn
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Link Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Well, I give up fixing this problem. I've tried everything. Just bought the Denon AVR so I'm not buying another brand etc Not buying another moome card either, I asked Moomie about my problem losing card detection etc, but of course he never replied.
Guess when I need to make a settings adjustment I'll have to hook up my monitor first, then make the adjustments
Thanks everyone for your help & ideas.
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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
TV/Projector: JVC RS40, Epson 5010
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Link Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Wait... One more thing, Larry...
Has anybody suggested trying the cheap Chinese HDMI splitter solution yet?
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larryp
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: eden prairie mn
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Link Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Tried one before getting new cables Didn't do anything
ecrabb wrote: | Wait... One more thing, Larry...
Has anybody suggested trying the cheap Chinese HDMI splitter solution yet?
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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larryp
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: eden prairie mn
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Try the viewhd product.
I bought a couple of hdcp strippers for hdmi handshake issues with moome cards and av receiver.
So far the hdview is the one that solved it.
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larryp
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: eden prairie mn
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Link Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Ok, I bought it. It better work. If not I'll have splitters & cables for sale )
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2789 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Link Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: |
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BTW how did you use the splitter? Just put into the chain inbetween the player and the receiver? If yes, you better try it as a real splitter, ie. splitter output 1 straight to the projector; splitter output 2 to the AVR (so you get sound), and don't have any other cable between the projector and the AVR directly.
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larryp
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: eden prairie mn
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Link Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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I put it between the avr & the moome card which goes to the pj
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2789 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Link Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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larryp wrote: | I put it between the avr & the moome card which goes to the pj |
Good, then try what I mentioned above.
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jaredjaric
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 228 Location: Philippines
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Link Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:49 am Post subject: |
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larryp wrote: | Ok, I bought it. It better work. If not I'll have splitters & cables for sale ) |
If the viewhd does not work on power up.
Try rebooting the player with the receiver and PJ still on.
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larryp
Joined: 24 Jan 2012 Posts: 252 Location: eden prairie mn
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Link Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:36 am Post subject: |
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The viewHD splitter didn't help either. Now I truly give up
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