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WanMan
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:11 pm Post subject: Movies that dramatically changed your stance on an actor. |
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I liked Scarlett Johansson up until I watched her in Under the Skin.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1441395/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_13
Not saying I disliked her, but I found my attraction to her changed. I wasn't expecting it but it happened, and it took me a long while to get over it. Wan, she's not an alien in real life--or is she?
And then there was Zooey Deschanel. I really liked her until I watched the movie All the Real Girls.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0299458/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_35
It wasn't until this year with the syndication of New Girl on TBS that I fell back in love with her. My fallout took place between first and second season so seeing the second and third season now was a treat.
OK, those are two off the top of my head. I see this as an evaluation on how I can treat a real person based on their professional work. I know its acting, but tell that to whatever portion of my brain has a problem with the roles/characters at hand.
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Movines? Or do you mean bovines?
Heck, I've seen any number of cows in movies over the years, but I can't say that any movie changed my outlook on them...
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CIR Engineering
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:00 am Post subject: Re: Movines that dramatically changed your stance on an acto |
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WanMan wrote: | I liked Scarlett Johansson up until I watched her in Under the Skin.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1441395/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_13
Not saying I disliked her, but I found my attraction to her changed. I wasn't expecting it but it happened, and it took me a long while to get over it. Wan, she's not an alien in real life--or is she? |
Funny, the only reason I kept watching Under the Skin was because she was topless periodically and then totally nude at one point. I think she is smoking hot even as a man killing alien robot.
First season of True Detectives made Matthew McConaughey one of my favorite actors. Before that I thought he was just all right. I think TD is more like an eight hour movie than a TV series so...
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WanMan
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Curt, my typing accuracy drops as my drunkenness goes up.
Craig, I agree about Matthew McConaughey. I never really liked him, but her work in TD was pretty dang good.
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gjaky
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Link Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:04 am Post subject: |
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We just watched 'Under the skin' because of your comments...
My wife said "it did not have a bad story because it did not have one at all", and considered this one of the worst movies she ever saw.
As for me I saw the spark in it but all in all I am glad it had mostly dark scenes so the 1 3/4 hour tube life wasn't wasted entirely...
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draganm
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gjaky wrote: | My wife said "it did not have a bad story because it did not have one at all", | not understanding the story doesn't mean there isn't one there
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draganm
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Eyes Wide Shut , first time I really liked Tome cruise
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CIR Engineering
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draganm wrote: | gjaky wrote: | My wife said "it did not have a bad story because it did not have one at all", | not understanding the story doesn't mean there isn't one there |
So what the F were all the motorcycle dudes about than Draganm
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gjaky
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Link Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:33 am Post subject: |
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draganm wrote: | gjaky wrote: | My wife said "it did not have a bad story because it did not have one at all", | not understanding the story doesn't mean there isn't one there |
This was my wife's comment. As for me I think I understood the story quite a bit, still it had little meaning.
***SPOILER***
You know in the the begining when SJ dresses up she wonders about an ant. I believe the motorcycle guys were like an ant-worker helping her and SJ was the queen or sort-of. Towards the end SJ obviously begun to like humans as they are, begining when she let go the ugly guy, then she had to go as well, and the motor guys looked for her obviously then. But all in all in the end it turned out to be (for me) just another "UFOs want to kill us but they change their mind because we are so nice" type of movie.
***END of SPOILER***
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draganm
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Link Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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CIR Engineering wrote: | draganm wrote: | gjaky wrote: | My wife said "it did not have a bad story because it did not have one at all", | not understanding the story doesn't mean there isn't one there |
So what the F were all the motorcycle dudes about than Draganm
craigr | Whaaaa? I think there was only 1 guy on the motorbike, he was the other alien, and it opened with him kidnapping a woman. At first you have no idea why he's taking her, I thought it was going ot be a movie about a serial killer, which it sorta was, but not in the traditional sense.
But I see no reason why he wouldn't ride a bike. I mean an Alien on a Superbike is a lot more impressive than if he put-putted around in a Prius no? They actually had a professional race driver on that bike BTW
gjaky wrote: | This was my wife's comment. As for me I think I understood the story quite a bit, still it had little meaning.
***SPOILER***
You know in the the begining when SJ dresses up she wonders about an ant. I believe the motorcycle guys were like an ant-worker helping her and SJ was the queen or sort-of. Towards the end SJ obviously begun to like humans as they are, begining when she let go the ugly guy, then she had to go as well, and the motor guys looked for her obviously then. |
all right color me blind, were there more than one "male " alien? If so then your analogy fits, especially when you consider that under her human suit she was shiny black, like a humanoid ant.
gjaky wrote: | But all in all in the end it turned out to be (for me) just another "UFOs want to kill us but they change their mind because we are so nice" type of movie.
***END of SPOILER*** | ok, well if you want to boil it down to that you wouldn't be wrong. The aliens first see us as raw meat for their "skin-suits" , but then realize there's more to us than that.
Human Empathy though is a very complex evolutionary trait. Why would a person run into a burning building to save someone inside they're not related to, and other such acts, which are completely contrary to the "basic programming" of self preservation and self-perpetuation. This was what they showed on the beach scene, and then again when she lets the deformed guy go out of curiosity in this human trait (BTW, that wasn't prosthetics, that guy really had a deformity) .
The movie then contrasted this with the stalker in the woods, showing the duality of man. On the beach you had a guy who risked his life to save a total stranger, then there's this other guy who's just a beast, a sexual predator with no mercy or remorse. That's really unusual in most animal and especially insect behaviors, to have such polar opposites in the same species.
I think the movie did an excellent job of portraying how a purely Alien intelligence would see that, kind of stepping outside ourselves and looking in. Sometimes you see things you don't normally notice when your looking out.
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gjaky
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draganm wrote: |
all right color me blind, were there more than one "male " alien? If so then your analogy fits, especially when you consider that under her human suit she was shiny black, like a humanoid ant.
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When SJ let go the ugly guy, she gone as well from the "nest", the next scene was with the biker guy actually with a lots other, and there was even a spectacular scene when all these motorbikers spread away in a traffic circe, each in different direction, although we only saw the same guy doing the dirty job, but since SJ didn't have lot friends, this let me think the other bikers were aliens as well.
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Link Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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gjaky wrote: | draganm wrote: |
all right color me blind, were there more than one "male " alien? If so then your analogy fits, especially when you consider that under her human suit she was shiny black, like a humanoid ant.
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When SJ let go the ugly guy, she gone as well from the "nest", the next scene was with the biker guy actually with a lots other, and there was even a spectacular scene when all these motorbikers spread away in a traffic circe, each in different direction, although we only saw the same guy doing the dirty job, but since SJ didn't have lot friends, this let me think the other bikers were aliens as well. |
That's what I recall as well.
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Look, this was an artistic movie and as such some folks will think it's a master piece and others won't like it. Look at the reviews on Netflix. People mostly give it one star, but then every now and then someone gives it five stars. For s slim minority this movie really strikes a cord and those folks find something profound in it. For the rest of us, this movie s just terrible.
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gjaky wrote: | When SJ let go the ugly guy, she gone as well from the "nest", the next scene was with the biker guy actually with a lots other, and there was even a spectacular scene when all these motorbikers spread away in a traffic circe, each in different direction, although we only saw the same guy doing the dirty job, but since SJ didn't have lot friends, this let me think the other bikers were aliens as well. | wow, I missed that, must have run upstairs for a biological break.
CIR Engineering wrote: | Look, this was an artistic movie and as such some folks will think it's a master piece and others won't like it. Look at the reviews on Netflix. People mostly give it one star, but then every now and then someone gives it five stars. For s slim minority this movie really strikes a cord and those folks find something profound in it. For the rest of us, this movie s just terrible.
craigr | absolutely
I gave it 5 stars, but I'm not a normal person
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CIR Engineering
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Link Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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draganm wrote: | gjaky wrote: | When SJ let go the ugly guy, she gone as well from the "nest", the next scene was with the biker guy actually with a lots other, and there was even a spectacular scene when all these motorbikers spread away in a traffic circe, each in different direction, although we only saw the same guy doing the dirty job, but since SJ didn't have lot friends, this let me think the other bikers were aliens as well. | wow, I missed that, must have run upstairs for a biological break.
CIR Engineering wrote: | Look, this was an artistic movie and as such some folks will think it's a master piece and others won't like it. Look at the reviews on Netflix. People mostly give it one star, but then every now and then someone gives it five stars. For s slim minority this movie really strikes a cord and those folks find something profound in it. For the rest of us, this movie s just terrible.
craigr | absolutely
I gave it 5 stars, but I'm not a normal person |
LOL
I am far from normal myself. I like a lot of movies that the masses dislike, but UTS was not one I found much in.
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Funny inst it'..peoples perspective on topics.. like on the largest organized association of outlaw bikers.. there really a nice bunch of guys.. doing normal daily jobs.. like collecting debts from dead beats.. just in some cases they have to use unconventional means to collect.. phone calls usually Don't work..the Personal Touch' is always best..just like in the movies..
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Under the skin impressed me because I got the feeling I was in the car with Scarlett. Never had that before in a movie but it was my first year back into crt too that added to the impressive blacks and all. This movie and others are great for the images and the scenes. Not for the story that I did not undestand at first either. Only after watching and enjoying it twice I started to use my logical brain on it
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so back OT A little, movies that really changed how you see movies, hmm. Well in my time, which is about 25 years now since I started going ot the Cinema, it would have ot be
Aliens, Ridley Scott. Remember walking out of the theater with my head spinning. I had never been Sci-fi bitch-slapped like that before. Start Wars was in that vein too, but it was before my time for Cinema release and by the time I saw it, it was a little dated.
The Sixth sense, M Knight Shamalan. First time I can say I really and truly loved a horror movie. I had seen others before that I just liked, but this was a horror masterpiece.
Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson. This started out SO good, I still love the original movie. Started slowly going downhill as Jackson bastardized the story for god knows what reason and finally ended in that horrible mess known as The Hobbit, but I still remember how awesome it was to see the original on the big screen.
Ink. Jamin Winans. Small budget Indy movie, and if you hated Under the Skin then don't bother, but this movie really hit a nerve with me and I am still amazed with what they accomplished with such a small budget. (filmed locally here in Denver). Really drove home the point that big budgets and good movies have NOTHING in common.
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draganm wrote: | so back OT A little, movies that really changed how you see movies, hmm. Well in my time, which is about 25 years now since I started going ot the Cinema, it would have ot be
Aliens, Ridley Scott. Remember walking out of the theater with my head spinning. I had never been Sci-fi bitch-slapped like that before. Start Wars was in that vein too, but it was before my time for Cinema release and by the time I saw it, it was a little dated.
The Sixth sense, M Knight Shamalan. First time I can say I really and truly loved a horror movie. I had seen others before that I just liked, but this was a horror masterpiece.
Lord of the Rings, Peter Jackson. This started out SO good, I still love the original movie. Started slowly going downhill as Jackson bastardized the story for god knows what reason and finally ended in that horrible mess known as The Hobbit, but I still remember how awesome it was to see the original on the big screen.
Ink. Jamin Winans. Small budget Indy movie, and if you hated Under the Skin then don't bother, but this movie really hit a nerve with me and I am still amazed with what they accomplished with such a small budget. (filmed locally here in Denver). Really drove home the point that big budgets and good movies have NOTHING in common. |
Do you mean Alien (Ridley Scott) or Aliens (James Cameron)? Both are great but I think Aliens is a much better film. It amped up the threat to a whole other level. The tension as the Marines descend towards their first encounter with the Aliens had me on the edge of my seat and James Horner's score along with sound of the motion tracker device perfectly complimented the visuals and pace. I was 12 when I saw it and remember thinking to myself "these guys are f'd"...lol
In a way, that franchise has never (and likely won't ever) upstage that sequel.
I like M. Night's films up until Lady in the Water. As much as I liked the sixth sense I also really enjoyed Unbreakable. That was a film ahead of it's time and it's a shame they didn't do a sequel- I think they could have done a lot with those characters.
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