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jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4181 Location: ohio usa

I look around different sites and forums and see what people "think" is good equipment and I have come to a single unwavering conclusion after a certain point it just all a bunch of rich ******* who have more money than sense. These people must think they have dog ears ! They don't. I would love to sit in a room with them and a bankroll of cash and do real A/B testing. Hey they got a 50/50 chance and I bet I would still make money. I only wish I could find a few of these genius's to play poker with. 50K for a turntable my ass ! At that point you are just a rube with too much money. So buy 2 !

Jeremy112 · Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 2645 Location: Fond du Lac, WI

I agree with you completely Jeff. But I also think that those that spend that much money on the stuff, buy it for looks more than sound quality.

I can't say I consider myself an audiophile (of the true type, not an audiophool Wink

) but I do have a few nice pieces of equipment, but nothing crazy ridiculous like many of the rich a**holes you mentioned. My "expensive" equipment is my McIntosh, and I only have a few pieces, and I most certainly didn't pay retail. That said, I think McIntosh equipment is rather outstanding in sound quality, performance, reliability, and build quality, and THAT is why I went with it. Not because I had so much cash to blow I said what the hell Wink

I have to admit, those ridiculously priced turntables sure are beautiful to look at. If anything some could be considered art Smile

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4181 Location: ohio usa

Maybe I should be an Audiophile salesman ? Seems like an easy gig. Tell rich people that other rich people's stuff is better than what they currently have, and that they know it is. Its like an arms race ! Overpriced gear just sells itself ! You just got to figure how to learn what their financial limits are. A simple credit check would give you most of that information. You get a nice cut and if they don't like the way the new gear sounds just tell them they didn't spend enough on cables !

emdawgz1 · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 7949

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4181 Location: ohio usa

Yeah, But NOW the rich are richer than EVER !

nettwerkjohn · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:35 pm Post subject:

hmmm.

i can clearly hear the difference between my meridian g08 cd player and the so called "hot-sh*t" cambridge audio blu-ray.

amplifiers? had some different amps over the years before settling on the accuphase mono blocks. worth every penny. haven't felt anything but satisfied since.

speakers? moved from janszen electrostatics to wilson watt/puppies. similar presentation in respect to overall rightness of the sound, but with the missing bottom end, and seemingly unconstrained/unlimited dynamics.

there are large differences in sound quality amongst audio products, whether you believe it or not. and largely, you get what you pay for. to a point.

audio jewellery? thats a different matter entirely.

i guess, what i'm saying is that say up to say 15k usd on a component there is a notable improvement in sound quality. above that? my ears ain't good enough.

and thanks to audiogon, we can buy the nice esoterica for pennies on the dollar. just like crt projectors...

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

I will never forget what the high end dealer in my area said to me when i was in my 20's.

Some people choose to spend 70k on a pool and back yard they will enjoy 3 months of the year.

And some people choose to spend 70k on a music or home theater system they can enjoy every day if they choose.

Its all relevant.

I love those rich people, I can get their over priced gear years later for a lot less.

Nashou

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jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4181 Location: ohio usa

I read one guy who said you aren't even REALLY listening to music if you own speakers that cost less than 10K a pair. How anyone who really cared about music and didn't have at LEAST 40k in a sound system was mentally challenged if they thought their gear was actually giving them REAL MUSIC. I have been looking at these sites for about 2 years now and the one thing I know to a certainty is this. Whatever gear a guy owns is "decent and respectable" anything less than his is really just crap and the owner of said crap is just fooling themselves. Now the people who have gear that is "slightly more expensive" than their gear is OK but really not much better than theirs, And the people who spend ungodly sums on gear are just show offs and probably tone deaf anyway.

garyfritz · Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12026 Location: Fort Collins, CO

Just like drivers. Anybody who drives slower than you is a road hazard, anybody who drives faster is a dangerous maniac. Laughing

**kal**

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4181 Location: ohio usa

DAMN, I think I struck a nerve ! Sorry so sensitive. Maybe this will lighten the mood.

I have for sale a turntable cartridge. It is made from the only tooth in the mouth of a butterfly from deepest darkest Africa that is only present after its birth for 22 minutes at which point it dissolves into gossamer wings. It will play in the groove of an LP for EXACTLY 19 minutes at which point it dissapaits. For those 19 minutes though it will reproduce sound that is pure perfection ! You will hear every single note, every movement in the recording studio. You will also be able to not only hear but through this unique medium, feel the earth as it hurtles through space ! All this for the very fair price of $92,000 dollars. $90,000 when you buy in lots of 6. These will only be available in the month of april for 3 days as they perish within two weeks whether used or not. Get yours now ! Before your friends do ! Supplys are VERY LIMITED !
CASH SALES ONLY ! Pre order for next year !

emdawgz1 · Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 7949

I guess im "challenged" as well... Because if (WHEN) i EVER get to the point where i have that kind of money....

I wont bat an EYE buying Audiophile level tech....

It's my money, I worked HARD for it, and I'll spend it in ways that make me happy.

If you've ever heard real audiophile level tech in action..... It's an EXPERIENCE!!!

ecrabb

ecrabb · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:15 pm Post subject:

**kal** · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:15 pm Post subject:

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4181 Location: ohio usa

This is what I had written and tried to post before the site temporarily shut down and I didn't get it to load. I copied it and saved it in hopes of posting.

OK then so there will be NO more discussions of the spending habits of the rich or the poor on here. Good to know ! My biggest point about this audiophile nonsense was, having the knowledge of almost every person on this sites gear, Including Kal's these so called experts believe EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE'S gear is basically mediocre crap. I always believed it was a matter of perspective myself, and was told here that room treatment was at LEAST as important as the gear. Is that not true anymore ? Is it really about 10K speakers ? and 6000 watt amps ? And a BASIC TT that costs 10K ? Are the EXPERTS correct ? Is every single Audio system that belongs to a member here mediocre crap ? Is it true that you cannot get a GOOD stereo system for less than 50K ? I guess I feel sad for all of us because we have no idea what real music sounds like.

I hope that doesn't offend you Kal. It was NEVER meant to.

**kal** · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject:

jeffslife · Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4181 Location: ohio usa

I will refrain from the use of the word ******* from now on. I promise. I will also keep my posts in line with the same level of discontent used by others on this site. It shouldn't be that hard to do. The post about the turntable cartridge was a JOKE. It was a joke about all the snake oil products sold to audiophiles like directional speaker cables for example. I really thought it would make you laugh. I REALLY DID ! I never meant to be hurtful or hateful to ANYONE on this site. To be quite honest I don't know of one single person on this site that I consider to be rich. Not even close. No one. Period. Unless they are hiding it really really well, at best the wealthiest person I see on here is upper middle class. That aint rich. Sorry but it aint. As far as the A--hole thing goes I guess I can be as big a one as anyone else on here from time to time. I apologize for that. I don't revel in it like some. I will do my best not be one in the future. When I slip please point it out to me like you do everyone else. Again, My Sincere Apologies. Jeff