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johnyfazer
Joined: 14 Jan 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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Link Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:50 pm Post subject: Mitsubishi 1281E vs Barco 808s |
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Sorry for my English / google translator /. I live in Poland. I had two years Sony G70- broke. I had two years BG 808s- broke. I found another VS-1281 Mitsubishi.Projektor new, never used. He stood in the shop for 20 years. $ 606 Price Is it much worse than the G70 / 808s Barco Graphics? Do you feel that the big difference? 20 years without the use can harm him? He was in an aluminum box, tightly closed. He was in a cold garage. I know that you can not buy any parts. Is now a good price? It is worth the risk? The projector turns on and everything works. I fear that comes a week and a decline . Regards
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
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Link Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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I've only used the earlier video only model, and it was TERRIBLE! I've seen three of them, and one corner of convergence was always out of alignment. I believe the 1281 is a lot better, but not as good as the 808 or G70. Lots of parts are available for the Sony and Barco, why not repair those? Almost guaranteed it will be cheaper than buying the Mits.
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2790 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Link Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Forum member 'hal' used to have mitsubishi 1281 projectors, according to him it is a very capable machine. While I haven't seen a 1281 in person, but I1d think it would outperform a barco 808, since the Mitsubishi has LC optics.
BUT, the asking price is quite high, most of these Mitsubishi projectors are dead now due to an odd power supply failure (?), since no service manual is available, once it's break down the repairing must involve one very addicted service person.
If you already have a CRT projector that needs fixing, I'd also invest in repairing it than buying this Mitsubishi, though it is a very interesting machine...
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Nashou66
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RaWsHaRk
Joined: 01 May 2009 Posts: 131 Location: Finland
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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stay away from it. did you keep the broken G70 and barco? fixing those is not too hard depending how they "broke" and if the tubes are still in not-too-far-gone condition.
doesnt matter that its lc, i have seen an old nec lc that i wouldnt want to watch a 480p pic from. and you wont get any support from anywhere, and no parts.
for a barco, you can find a million parts for few euros or sometimes free..
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gjaky
Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2790 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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RaWsHaRk wrote: |
doesnt matter that its lc, i have seen an old nec lc that i wouldnt want to watch a 480p pic from. and you wont get any support from anywhere, and no parts.
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This machine actually is about as old as the NEC 9PG xtra or Barco 808, and seem to be quite comparable in specs too, so assuming it is perfectly working, this should be capable machine as well, the problem is really the lack of support in spare parts, and the asking price of course...
BTW, I always wanted one of these along with an AmPro
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6319 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 am Post subject: |
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gjaky wrote: | RaWsHaRk wrote: |
doesnt matter that its lc, i have seen an old nec lc that i wouldnt want to watch a 480p pic from. and you wont get any support from anywhere, and no parts.
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This machine actually is about as old as the NEC 9PG xtra or Barco 808, and seem to be quite comparable in specs too, so assuming it is perfectly working, this should be capable machine as well, the problem is really the lack of support in spare parts, and the asking price of course...
BTW, I always wanted one of these along with an AmPro |
Id have to expect it should look quite nice Gabor, it even has dichroic coated C elements on these which should reduce reflections even more.
But I do agree on the price, unless they will give you a factory warranty, which they wont.
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johnyfazer
Joined: 14 Jan 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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Link Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Approx. Thank you for the advice. I wonder all the time. My barco 808s is probably broken a few items, but has a very good light 9,9,9. Convergence problem. I replaced two albums convergence / management and driver /. Next the same thing happens. I can not bend only points to the left and right on a red . Numbers, but nothing is regulated on the screen. H-size - it also does not work. Green and blue is good. I can not deal with it. Sony G-70 has an error 29. broken plate B, BA - RGBHV input. Not here to buy, or is very expensive. G70 lamp - 8,7,8. Waiting until someone is cheaper g70 sold for parts. 1281 Mitsubishi projector never used I thought it was a good idea. I am a loyal CRT. I do not know why, but I can not convince the middle class LCD and DLP projectors. For jvc DILA I can not afford. I gave him one last chance Barco 808s. I'll take two of these projectors damaged. They have them in the company of "Barco" in Warsaw. I'll be good consisted of three broken. I'll see if it succeeds. greetings
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24305 Location: Langley, BC
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Link Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:23 am Post subject: |
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I have all parts for the G70 and Barco 808 for cheap. Pricing isn't what it used to be. Email me at curtpalme at shaw.ca
Thanks!
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6319 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 11:18 am Post subject: |
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The 808 only needs a convergence board by the sound of that....
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dvh99
Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland
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Link Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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600 dollars for a 7 inch pj is crazy.
a 9 inch isn`t overly bright let alone a 7 inch.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Link Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Its an 8" that one. I think they also have P16 tubes.
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johnyfazer
Joined: 14 Jan 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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Link Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hello. 1281 Mitsubishi did not buy it. I listened to you. Barco fix my 808s, but I do not know if I can. My 808s Barco is damaged: 1 / power supply, 2 / motherboard-burning . 1 Picture of my projector. 2 picture i have two 808s Barco damaged Date. All three projectors are 07mfp tube - p16lkg ..... The truth is that I do not know what my projector model 808s Date barco 75MHz? or Barco is 808 s 120MHz graphics? After what parts of it can get to know ?? If you can not run any of the projector.
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Defective motherboard in my projector is R762502. I wanted to replace it with another number R7625021 from other projectors on the photograph 2. Can I use the old type quadrupler + old type EHT on the board R7625021 ??
I only have one set of active old type EHT + quadrupler. Two efficient motherboards R7625021 and one power supply BGR 808s/E.
Sorry for my English, I do not know if anything can understand / Google Translator / Greetings and thank you for your help
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johnyfazer
Joined: 14 Jan 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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Link Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Ok. I know that I have to do combinations of "new frame set = old quad + old EHT + any splitter (JUMPER)" Who me explain .... "Jumper". How do I do this ???? Where is it?
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Decibel
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Jumper is an hardware modify on eht board
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johnyfazer
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Approx. Can you tell me how to do it? draw on the photograph?
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johnyfazer
Joined: 14 Jan 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Another question. Barco 808s work well with quadrupler barco 500. Does anyone know if quadrupler barco 500 is the same as in barco 600? I have access to barco 600.
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2857 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Decibel wrote: | Jumper is an hardware modify on eht board |
I believe that jumper is on the Frame between/near the quadrupler and EHT. The bulletin below helps.
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johnyfazer
Joined: 14 Jan 2014 Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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Link Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, I know nothing more Does anyone of you did on the projector jumper ? Can someone take a photo or drawing ??? Only it saves me
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2857 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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johnyfazer wrote: | Unfortunately, I know nothing more Does anyone of you did on the projector jumper ? Can someone take a photo or drawing ??? Only it saves me |
Perhaps the best way would be for someone to help you. You need access to the under side of the Frame between the Quad and EHT and its difficult to get to. As Decibel says you could modify the EHT but this is more complex. Is there anyone close to you that understands a little about circuit diagrams?
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