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spoot
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Link Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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huggy wrote: | Well I pulled out the old stewart Ultramatte 200 from storage to see if there was even the slightest possibility of using it. |
Heh, I did the exact same thing on Tuesday. Unrolled a used screen that I bought around 15 years ago just hoping it was in decent shape so I could point an old Ampro at it. I didn't see any bananna in the case.....perhaps I should ask for a refund.
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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Link Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Banana was an option, you need to tick the box
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6319 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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huggy wrote: | ElTopo wrote: | Wohoooooo another 909 stack |
How many others are there? |
Errmmm.... One?
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2857 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I think there are some in Europe.
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6319 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:43 am Post subject: |
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km987654 wrote: | I think there are some in Europe. |
Probably f***en heaps!! But i havent seen them post on here
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Nashou66
Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:52 am Post subject: |
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It has been awhile since I have looked at Stewart's perf screens. I didn't really like them that much, but I am not a fan of AT screens except the Seymour Enlightor 4k. IIRC I did look at the Stewart screen at Cedia and the rep said you could not see the perfs. So, I did a quick test. I walked back and forth to see what distance I could see the perfs, which I think was around 8 to 10 feet or so. The rep then replied that you couldn't see them at regular seating distances. I believe Seymour's XD screen was around the same. Personally, I would like a margin of error if I were going the AT route.
I know you are looking at Seymour's XD material. Cliffy's room is real dark and the weave isn't that noticeable. Of course, I don't believe I ever did a comparison with a regular screen in his theater. It would have been an interesting comparison. Maybe the next CRT showdown.
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2857 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:03 am Post subject: |
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CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | km987654 wrote: | I think there are some in Europe. |
Probably f***en heaps!! But i havent seen them post on here |
I could be wrong but Yeah those guys seem to drop in to pick up some information and have a dig at people here and there but no sharing
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Spanky Ham wrote: | It has been awhile since I have looked at Stewart's perf screens. I didn't really like them that much, but I am not a fan of AT screens except the Seymour Enlightor 4k. IIRC I did look at the Stewart screen at Cedia and the rep said you could not see the perfs. So, I did a quick test. I walked back and forth to see what distance I could see the perfs, which I think was around 8 to 10 feet or so. The rep then replied that you couldn't see them at regular seating distances. I believe Seymour's XD screen was around the same. Personally, I would like a margin of error if I were going the AT route.
I know you are looking at Seymour's XD material. Cliffy's room is real dark and the weave isn't that noticeable. Of course, I don't believe I ever did a comparison with a regular screen in his theater. It would have been an interesting comparison. Maybe the next CRT showdown. |
Well I was initially considering 4k, but then the xd was recommended due to it's higher gain. My seating distance for a 12 ft wide screen will be about 15 ft. Do you think I'll be ok at this distance with the XD or should I play it safe and go the 4k? My problem is is that If I see the perfs once while watching a movie I'll forever be looking for them. My room is completely dark similar to cliff's I suppose.
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:12 am Post subject: |
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15 feet is probably fine, but don't quote me. Your best bet is to get a sample. I have some somewhere, but I have no idea where it is.
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Spanky Ham wrote: | 15 feet is probably fine, but don't quote me. Your best bet is to get a sample. I have some somewhere, but I have no idea where it is. |
Yeah you're right, I'll ask Jon for a sample of both then decide. In the meantime I'll make the frame for the screen, whack the ultramatte up and make do with swiss cheese
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:23 am Post subject: |
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These 2 are the worst of the lot, it's not this bad in person due to flash however, the wear doesn't make sense, there is no wear pattern, nothing, the whole tube has same colouration, what gives?
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6319 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Either they ran max tube face for very long hours at low outputs or the glycol is stained. The blue on the second pic looks to have stained glycol, since its clearer in the center.
How many hours on the sets?
The OZ Theatre material have a 1.3 gain.
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:54 am Post subject: |
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My initial thoughts were stained glycol as well but these were maintained by Barco Technicians whom I know.
The sets have 22 k hours on them, yikes!
Dave
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km987654
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 2857 Location: Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps the tubes don't have many hours. The stained glycol could simply be from some sort of contamination in the LC tank particularly if the tubes were replaced using the original tanks rather than switching out the entire unit with the LC tanks. I would have said exposure to reflected sunlight but how would you get that in planetarium?
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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If it was sunlight id expect it to be rather uneven, and probably have buggered C elements.
I know they were well maintained, i spoke in some length with Phil about them on the phone, but they were indeed sitting unused for a long time!!
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24305 Location: Langley, BC
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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you SUCK, and yes, the glycol is bad. When getting projectors from planetariums, they're projecting black all the time, so there's little tube wear. Watch for pinpoint phosphor burn from stars and planets though.
In January I'm getting in 9 Barco 1209s from a planetarium as well. Some have new tubes, others will have slight wear. Will get my 909s running, and will sell stuff CHEAP!
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | If it was sunlight id expect it to be rather uneven, and probably have buggered C elements.
I know they were well maintained, i spoke in some length with Phil about them on the phone, but they were indeed sitting unused for a long time!! |
Phil is a great guy, I must admit I've drained that guy of tubes boards pjs etc over the last 5 years lol. In total I've got 4 sets of Lugs plus 8 909's off him over this period. The one I'm still burnt over was the cine 9 I missed for 1500 going back 3 years.
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huggy
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 927 Location: Melbourne,Australia
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Curt Palme wrote: | you SUCK, and yes, the glycol is bad. When getting projectors from planetariums, they're projecting black all the time, so there's little tube wear. Watch for pinpoint phosphor burn from stars and planets though.
In January I'm getting in 9 Barco 1209s from a planetarium as well. Some have new tubes, others will have slight wear. Will get my 909s running, and will sell stuff CHEAP! |
The first thing I checked was star and planet burns but none have them, all the pjs seem to have the tainted glycol in one or more tubes, I guess this means all the tubes in all the pjs are minty
Oh and ffs, get your thread up to date, I need something to follow
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 24305 Location: Langley, BC
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Link Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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got nothing new to report other than the Onkyo receiver is back from extended warranty repair. Nice, for only having spent $30 on a remote for it.
I am crazy busy with sound quotes and installations, and may have a big job to be done by the end of December. If so, no holidays for me, and no time to work on the stack until Jan..
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