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lydmann · Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Norway

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows what mode b does? My friend call it full range, but I have Gregs full mod and drive 0-255 from madvr pc to dvdo vp50 scaler there input is set to 0-255 and output i 0-255. That is full range right? I get the same result as mode b if I set the input on the scaler to video 16-235 and keep the output on pc 0-255. Does moome card to the samme thing to enable this mode? What happens is that white crushed and black is very black. So it make extreme contrast in picture, but you need lot of gamma to get all info in black. The colors is more saturate too in this mode.

And Stridsvogn, please get an another hobby, you just make negative vibes here, please grow up and stop naging about the same thing over and over again..

**kal**

lydmann · Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Norway

so my friend has probably 16 235 out from pc?

**kal** · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:22 am Post subject:

I don't know. You'll have to ask him what his setup is set for.

Kal

lydmann · Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Norway

What are people here using? mode a or b?

**kal** · Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:15 pm Post subject:

It doesn't matter what people are using. Both are "correct". You need to use whichever matches what you set your source devices to. Don't set it to A or B based on what others are doing. That wouldn't make any sense.

If your sources are all set to 16-235, do the same on the Moome card.
If your sources are all set to 0-255, do the same on the Moome card.

I would recommend setting all your sources the same way. Otherwise you'd have to constantly switch your Moome card depending on what source you're using.

For what it's worth, if a source device does not have the option, they probably are doing 16-235 as it is more "standard". PCs were some of the first that let you choose. Gaming boxes as well. Nowadays most source devices let you choose. Sometimes the option is not described in an obvious way. You'll see things like "enhanced white" or "white boost" or similar to describe 0-255. Many people incorrectly think that 0-255 is "better" in that if gives you better range or similar but that's not true. In fact the opposite is true for older analog displays: The 16-235 range gives some over/undershoot leeway. On digital displays there's no longer a need for that.

I use 16-235 myself in the home theater. In my Home Theater I have a PS3, PS4, and a satellite PVR. The PS3 and PS4 have options to set to either 0-255 or 16-235 but I believe the the PVR does not let you choose (I may be wrong on this - it's been many years since I checked) and only offers 16-235. So I also set the PS3 and PS4 to 16-235 as well. I then do the same on the projector.

Kal

lydmann · Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Norway

Thank you for good answer. So you dont get more saturation and more dynamic range at all, except on HDR at 0-255? Some say that (if I understand them correctly) that mode b, actually put the 0-255 range into the 16-235 range. That means 16 is 0, and 235 is 255. On crt the white look whiter, and the saturation look more saturated...and the dynamic in the film look amazing. The mode b altso cut btb and wtw. Anyone who can confirm this?

cmjohnson · Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 5180 Location: Buried under G90s

So, does the Moome 1.4 card allow display resolutions beyond 1080p? And if so, is that selectable via the remote?

Just curious, for now.

El Duderino · Joined: 23 Jan 2011 Posts: 4627 Location: Portland, OR

**kal** · Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:36 am Post subject: