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ElTopo
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In comparison to my Cine9 it's perfect.
What are you expecting ?
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stridsvognen
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Ok.. In my World compared to whatever its pretty messed up. Also compared to your 909.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Terrible convergence though...
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ElTopo
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| Link Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Panel is not adjusted until now.
You can do zone convergence on the VW200 like on a CRT.
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redfox001
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You have the VW200? Nice one! I was looking for that one everywhere but they are sought after very much. I have the VW100 because it was cheaper but mainly the blacklevel was unacceptable. The VW200 will satisfy very much better (better black) and the VW100 did not have zone convergence but hanging it exactly right it was the best convergence for a digital I ever had. The lens was very good and sharper than the JVC I had. But when I compare to the Cine Max than only the silence of 22 dB remains. But for a digital the VW200 was the one I was looking for too. Nice!
Would be nice to have a compare between these two projectors. I am curious what your opinion is because my opinion must be biased too of cause.
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ElTopo
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| Link Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:30 am Post subject: |
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The motorized lens of the VW200 is superb.
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redfox001
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| ElTopo wrote: | | The motorized lens of the VW200 is superb. |
Perhaps one day I'll have two projectors an digital for 4k material en the 909 for the rest 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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I was looking at some JVC projectors the other day that actually looked quite good, they have some sort of system that gives the illusion of 3840x2160, but im not sure if they will be bright enough to light up the 4.5 meter wide 2.37:1 screen im going to put it on...
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Spanky Ham
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There aren't many non-3 chip DLP pjs that will light up a 180" wide screen. I am not sure if anyone has stacked digitals, but that might be an option.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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No probably not many at all, probably go ok in a very dark room though.
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Diddern
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | There aren't many non-3 chip DLP pjs that will light up a 180" wide screen. I am not sure if anyone has stacked digitals, but that might be an option. |
That is a big screen, 180 inch I will not recommend the JVC.
You need a high lumen PJ around 2-3000 lumen should be enough.
Depend the price also.
Cheep way, and maybe good enough a sony vw55.
I have seen sony vw55 and sony vw600 and the vw1000 on a 136 inch and that was more than enough punch.
The jvc x500 was to dark compared after what I felt.
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Diddern
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Ok.. In my World compared to whatever its pretty messed up. Also compared to your 909. |
For the frist time i can say totally agree. Hehe
In my world to.
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Diddern
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| Link Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ElTopo wrote: | Panel is not adjusted until now.
You can do zone convergence on the VW200 like on a CRT. |
Then fix it locked horrible. Your CRT looked better at that pattern. 
Do not go into the zone adjustment, hint use only hole panel shift.
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HogPilot
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| redfox001 wrote: | You have the VW200? Nice one! I was looking for that one everywhere but they are sought after very much. I have the VW100 because it was cheaper but mainly the blacklevel was unacceptable. The VW200 will satisfy very much better (better black) and the VW100 did not have zone convergence but hanging it exactly right it was the best convergence for a digital I ever had. The lens was very good and sharper than the JVC I had. But when I compare to the Cine Max than only the silence of 22 dB remains. But for a digital the VW200 was the one I was looking for too. Nice!
Would be nice to have a compare between these two projectors. I am curious what your opinion is because my opinion must be biased too of cause. |
I know you posted this over a month ago, but I have a VW200 for sale in the classifieds here. Excellent condition, PM me if interested.
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redfox001
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redfox001
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Ok for future reference and for fun here are 804p, 720p and 1080p picture showing bandwith. 720p seems to me resolved and 804p not totally at least less than the Eisemann/Moome modded barco from Francisco. I will evaluate some movies to get a feeling what a good resolved picture looks like on 720p. It seems that 804p and 1080p do not differ much in bandwith resolution.
1080p@60 148mHz
804p@60 114mHz (1920x804)
720p@60 64mHz
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Might be either that test pattern or the iphone, but im sure my 1-1 is alot sharper than that on RGB.
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redfox001
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Might be either that test pattern or the iphone, but im sure my 1-1 is alot sharper than that on RGB. |
The setup was not perfect but it looked sharper than I had before so perhaps too the iphone a little? I am starting to dig into the zone adjustings but in the center that should not make a difference. But blue was defocused to get the gamma right, I have to look into that again.
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redfox001
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Oh by the way I use a program from Nec to give the right pictures at different resolutions. Happened to be a nice program together with the nokia program.
Still I am learning on focus in all the zones and astig everywhere and I think that a skilled setupper could get more sharpness out of my Cine Max for sure!
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stridsvognen
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| Link Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Nice pattern.
Its clear that you will get a much sharper, dynamic and better contrast running the 720P 64Mhz resolution. As it seems to fit the bandwidth of your video chain.
Can you share that pattern with the rest of us.?
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