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redfox001
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| ElTopo wrote: | Thanks.
What blu-ray software for mac do you have in use ? |
For blu-ray on a mac you do need a very fast mac. I mostly play mkv material around 15 GB that goes fine with VLC player. Need to do some settings in VLC but than it works reasonable well. Now and than there is a small audio drop because I use spdif audio. Don't know why but I stopped bothering.
I want to experiment with an external blu-ray drive but than I might need an input hdcp stripper or more but I am afraid it will stutter so I don't even try.
If you want to play blu-ray you might need to go the htpc way and now everything is getting better I might go that way too but in the past I gave up because the picture never ran smooth there where allways stutter with my htpc. My first mac ran perfect right away but only till a certain bitrate.
But since I download a lot and now and than use itunes to buy a movie this solution is very practical and I see a very sharp real picture better than the picture I had with media players that did full blu-rays. I had the popcorn that was bad and another one I forgot that was better. The Mac had by far the best picture but there is a subjective part because I don't know why.
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redfox001
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But guys I found a new problem. It turns out to be independent of the internal hdmi or the vga cable. It must be something in the Barco. In this picture you see the blue tube having strange stripes it is almost independent of brightness and contrast and I only see it with a full white test picture on the screen but is always there.
It is only blue. Red and green are fine. The diagonal lines are iphone interference.
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ElTopo
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http://www.macblurayplayer.com/index.htm
I tried it today with an external blu-ray drive but it played not fluently.
Maybe i have to install MacOS on a SSD.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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SSD wont do much for you, the machine isnt powerful enough for the job.
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redfox001
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That is weired. I am looking again into the blue tube today and it is gone. 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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The blue tube is missing? 
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redfox001
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gjaky
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| redfox001 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | The blue tube is missing? |
But I am sad to say that after a few minutes it returns on blue.
But when I connect through the internal RGB2 card the pattern of the lines is different especially left and right are inverted. See the pictures.
I tried changing the Necboards but that was not it.
So I am thinking what does only cause this with blue and why does it change with the input?
At least one thing can be rules out. It is not burn on the tubes.
One other thing I noticed. It does not shift with the image. It stays the same with contrast.
Anyone?
I wil try the switcher because I have a spare switcher here.
Hmmm I could also try changing the cables on the splitter. |
Maybe some digital noise gets in the signal path through the OSD injection point.
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redfox001
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Pffff that sounds like something on the system board? Is that because it does not shift with the image? Does this rule out the video chain? On the other hand blanking does not shift with the image. It might be the driver.
Changing the switcher to the MP modded one did not solve it. But now the sync t-connector could be left out and it accepted H and V sync so that is a little improvement.
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redfox001
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| gjaky wrote: | | redfox001 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | The blue tube is missing? |
But I am sad to say that after a few minutes it returns on blue.
But when I connect through the internal RGB2 card the pattern of the lines is different especially left and right are inverted. See the pictures.
I tried changing the Necboards but that was not it.
So I am thinking what does only cause this with blue and why does it change with the input?
At least one thing can be rules out. It is not burn on the tubes.
One other thing I noticed. It does not shift with the image. It stays the same with contrast.
Anyone?
I wil try the switcher because I have a spare switcher here.
Hmmm I could also try changing the cables on the splitter. |
Maybe some digital noise gets in the signal path through the OSD injection point. |
I tested if it was there when using the internal installation menu's and than it was also there so it is not a mixture of internal signals with external signals if that is what you mean?
I have a guess that it might be related to the 'streaking' as I saw very clear streaking on blue looking into the lens. I could not detect it on the other two but i will check. Blue is also the most affected by gamma.
Is that possible that the powersupply somehow modulates the video signal in such a regular way?
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macgyver655
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If your blue tube is not pivoted enough for the setup and the blue raster is near or over the edge it my be a reflection. Does blanking on that side affect the issue even if you do not blank over it?
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redfox001
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | If your blue tube is not pivoted enough for the setup and the blue raster is near or over the edge it my be a reflection. Does blanking on that side affect the issue even if you do not blank over it? |
Ok I tried but blanking does not affect is. Also I made the raster as small as possible and no effect.
I noticed that the streaking is only on red and blue it seems. But the streaking lines are dynamic moving and the others are sitting still independent of contrast and brightness. Very strange.
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macgyver655
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But you can blank it off, correct? The image and raster that is.
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redfox001
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This is with maximal blanking. It is still there.
I also use the 148Mhz standard 1080P 60hz timings and the image is completely within the raster now.
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macgyver655
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Maybe I was looking at the wrong thing. Are those tentacle type dash lines the problem or was it the shaded left portion running from top to bottom?
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redfox001
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | Maybe I was looking at the wrong thing. Are those tentacle type dash lines the problem or was it the shaded left portion running from top to bottom? |
Aaah I get what you mean. There is a vertical shade with a line that is also a problem. I can blank that off but it does not get less with blanking. The tentacle dash line are the other problem. It seems blue is totale going crazy now.
I also remember during setup that when I defocused blue (in the astig menu) suddenly the menu came right through the image or something. I immediately backed off and left it this way. Seems this problem was there all the time but might be getting worse?
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redfox001
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| Link Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Nashou66 wrote: | That looks like a similar issue the Marquees get when something is wrong on its control board. Do you have another system board to test?
Nashou |
Aaah I was afraid of that. I do not have a second Cine 9 yet. I might need to get one for these type of problems.
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macgyver655
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Ah, that explains it. I thought the tentacles were from the camera.
If you pull up an internal test pattern or white screen if it has it, is the problem there?
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redfox001
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| Link Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| macgyver655 wrote: | Ah, that explains it. I thought the tentacles were from the camera.
If you pull up an internal test pattern or white screen if it has it, is the problem there? |
Yes it is. The first picture was done wit 100% white full screen.
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