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redfox001




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PostLink    Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:41 am    Post subject: New Cine max topic Reply with quote


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Hi All,

I am testing my new Cine max that is only a few days here but I have a couple of questions.

First problem with internal resolutions is solved. Turned out to be incompatibility between internal hdmi and internal paterns.

Second question is that the raster seems very large. It seems like the corners of the testpictures are outside and looking in the tubes it seemed indead to big but I never looked into liquid coupled tubes before. Is this something to solve with the raster width coils? I am new to Barco. I can make the picture itself small enough but need a lot of correction for that.

Thanks!


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redfox001




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PostLink    Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I just got an answer to the First problem. The internal HDMI card is causing this so this is not a problem at all. The second question about the raster size remains.

The second problem seems to be fixed too. The raster fitted exactly on the boarder. I have to shift the image pretty much but that must be porches related.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show me a pic of your raster.

I run mine reasonably large, maybe 5-8mm from the edge at the closest point.

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont f*** with the coils or pots inside a CineMAX.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi I found yesterday that the raster seems to be good. I'll make a picture. I was wondering why there is no raster width adjustment but ok that is normal with Barco.

Thanks for the warning. I will not touch the coils or pots unless there is no other way out.

By the way. This is a 6800 hours Cine max and I have all three tubes almost new LUG. The lenses are HFQ900. With internal HDMI. I feel very very very happy
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

But first I have to mount the Cine max.

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats, You've got one if not the best 9" CRT and also better than digital in certain critical areas. Few free to ask me any question as I own 2units of it too.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats, You've got one if not the best 9" CRT and also better than digital in certain critical areas. Few free to ask me any question as I own 2units of it too.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I also think this is one of the best CRT's ever made and probable one of the best beamers ever made by mankind Very Happy Not counting digital they all suck! Laughing

When watching the image of a 919 I immediately got sucked into the movie just like the old days. Digital is lifeless and boring....

But I have few spareparts. I have a 809 for spare but if things go wrong I'm in trouble. But I hope more spare machines will become available in the next years at reasonable prising.

Originally I was planning to use the housing of the split pack 809 but the noise was small enough to try without modifying the Cine max into a split pack. Probable a bad idea anyway Very Happy
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adjust it with the size setting.
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adjust it with the size setting.
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, the Cine max is moving upward! Smile



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PostLink    Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting way to lift the PJ !

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe it or not i actually found it easier with the lenses on...
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok! The lift can carry 600kg so I can put the lenses and tubes in before lifting.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bye the way there is an iris camera on the front. Is this of any practical use with convergence? Do you guys use these camera's?
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The general opinion about all automated convergence systems is that a human can do a better job. Sometimes it is good to have decent convergence in a few minutes though.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok! One more question. I could not start the Barco lens program not under windows 7. It kept crashing. So I do not know what hight to aim at with 16/9 and HFQ900 lenses. Could someone give me a number with respect to the top of the screen? The screen is 100 inch. Assuming the distance to be correct.

The Cine max is hanging low now but my screen is too. But I think this is a little to low Smile


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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that looks about right with out adding massive keystone and having a trapezoid raster.

Usually the top of the screen is even with the top of the lens, or close to it.

So raise your screen about 2 feet.

nashou

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redfox001




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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nashou66 wrote:
that looks about right with out adding massive keystone and having a trapezoid raster.

Usually the top of the screen is even with the top of the lens, or close to it.

So raise your screen about 2 feet.

nashou


So this way I would be using max phosphor? Than I will try this first as long as I can sit under it Smile
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read that you wrote raise the screen 2 feet. Ok, I can work with that and leaving the lens on the top of the screen. This low it might make to much noise. Thanks! Very Happy
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