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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Is there one of you to sharp brains who have a clue what that image i posted is good for, or are you still trying to use it to measure MTF.? |
This pattern can be used to show MTF also (of corse not correct %, but is shows it), but you are actually so obsessed with bandwith you have no clue it can actually be used to show how your display shows MTF
As you will not answer my questions I only ask from your original, why is there a lot of pink parts in the picture and where are all the lines. Even if you have good bandwith it should also be able to show the lines even if the picture is taken from far away. 
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Feel free to answer Andreas questions , and all mine all this BW can we come back to later when we have before and after pictures on a crt.
Until then Stick to topic.
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How can you tell i have good bandwidth.? Did i tell you what pixel clock that image was displayed with.?
How can you tell it have very bad MTF.? Did i post a high resolution picture who would measure same MTF as on the screen.?
You 2 idiots have no clue how to evaluate a screenshot of a test pattern, your constantly looking for stuff the pictures cant tell.
Tell me 1 more time why we need you guys to help evaluate modifications for CRT projectors.? |
I think you have shown who is the idiot with all your bull**** on how you can judge black, color, color resolution+++ from a screenshot, and you can calibrate to bt 709 with your eyes+++.
If you say you can not judge MTF from your screenshot, you have no idea. As your shot does not define the lines it clearly shows it has very poor MTF. Take a close up of one of the patterns and show me I am mistaken. This is a 1080p original picture is it not?
And please answer my questions about the uniformity problems your original picture so clearly shows.
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
How can you tell i have good bandwidth.? Did i tell you what pixel clock that image was displayed with.?
How can you tell it have very bad MTF.? Did i post a high resolution picture who would measure same MTF as on the screen.?
You 2 idiots have no clue how to evaluate a screenshot of a test pattern, your constantly looking for stuff the pictures cant tell.
Tell me 1 more time why we need you guys to help evaluate modifications for CRT projectors.? |
I think you have shown who is the idiot with all your bull**** on how you can judge black, color, color resolution+++ from a screenshot, and you can calibrate to bt 709 with your eyes+++.
If you say you can not judge MTF from your screenshot, you have no idea. As your shot does not define the lines it clearly shows it has very poor MTF. Take a close up of one of the patterns and show me I am mistaken. This is a 1080p original picture is it not?
And please answer my questions about the uniformity problems your original picture so clearly shows. |
Is it a 1080P image? and what framerate.? Your the one who say it have a good bandwidth, so you must know.?
How do you measure the MTF on the picture i posted, and how was the projector prepared for that test.?
You 2 idiots still have no clue how to evaluate a screenshot of a test pattern, your constantly looking for stuff the pictures cant tell.
Tell me 1 more time why we need you guys to help evaluate modifications for CRT projectors.?
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Diddern
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
How can you tell i have good bandwidth.? Did i tell you what pixel clock that image was displayed with.?
How can you tell it have very bad MTF.? Did i post a high resolution picture who would measure same MTF as on the screen.?
You 2 idiots have no clue how to evaluate a screenshot of a test pattern, your constantly looking for stuff the pictures cant tell.
Tell me 1 more time why we need you guys to help evaluate modifications for CRT projectors.? |
I think you have shown who is the idiot with all your bull**** on how you can judge black, color, color resolution+++ from a screenshot, and you can calibrate to bt 709 with your eyes+++.
If you say you can not judge MTF from your screenshot, you have no idea. As your shot does not define the lines it clearly shows it has very poor MTF. Take a close up of one of the patterns and show me I am mistaken. This is a 1080p original picture is it not?
And please answer my questions about the uniformity problems your original picture so clearly shows. |
Is it a 1080P image? and what framerate.? Your the one who say it have a good bandwidth, so you must know.?
How do you measure the MTF on the picture i posted, and how was the projector prepared for that test.?
You 2 idiots still have no clue how to evaluate a screenshot of a test pattern, your constantly looking for stuff the pictures cant tell.
Tell me 1 more time why we need you guys to help evaluate modifications for CRT projectors.? |
Do not need to help a guy like you, because you know everything everybody know that know.
Not what you need , but maybe others that like to see what mods do, without hallelujah statements and the fact.
And I want to know.
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Andreas21
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
How can you tell i have good bandwidth.? Did i tell you what pixel clock that image was displayed with.?
How can you tell it have very bad MTF.? Did i post a high resolution picture who would measure same MTF as on the screen.?
You 2 idiots have no clue how to evaluate a screenshot of a test pattern, your constantly looking for stuff the pictures cant tell.
Tell me 1 more time why we need you guys to help evaluate modifications for CRT projectors.? |
I think you have shown who is the idiot with all your bull**** on how you can judge black, color, color resolution+++ from a screenshot, and you can calibrate to bt 709 with your eyes+++.
If you say you can not judge MTF from your screenshot, you have no idea. As your shot does not define the lines it clearly shows it has very poor MTF. Take a close up of one of the patterns and show me I am mistaken. This is a 1080p original picture is it not?
And please answer my questions about the uniformity problems your original picture so clearly shows. |
Is it a 1080P image? and what framerate.? Your the one who say it have a good bandwidth, so you must know.?
How do you measure the MTF on the picture i posted, and how was the projector prepared for that test.?
You 2 idiots still have no clue how to evaluate a screenshot of a test pattern, your constantly looking for stuff the pictures cant tell.
Tell me 1 more time why we need you guys to help evaluate modifications for CRT projectors.? |
So you need to prepare your projector to show good MTF, I said you can not measure it, but you can draw conclutions from this kind of picture. And I think you donīt know how to evaluate testpatterns. And this picture can tell a lot about MTF, but of corse not the right % as I said earlier.
I wonder why you CRT guys have to be so hostile and call me idiot and other stuff??
And I ask you once again why do you have these pink parts all over your screen? And where are the lines?
And since I have no clue why donīt you enlighten me? 
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He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Its just Just like every other time you are on a forum thread, ignoring and ignoring and ask irrelevant questions back to step away forum topic or what we ask about. God work 
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| Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.?
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Diddern
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Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Simple answer: stridsvognen "the man that think he knows everything and knows noting"
Have a good BW day
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Andreas21
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go??
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go?? |
If you look around on this forum you will find all the information you need about Marquee mods and improvements.
Us who like CRT projectors, and know that they are not interlaced will continue share experience that you 2 guys will never understand or find out how to evaluate.
Anything else you like to know feel free to ask, and ill reply as i like.
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Andreas21
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go?? |
If you look around on this forum you will find all the information you need about Marquee mods and improvements.
Us who like CRT projectors, and know that they are not interlaced will continue share experience that you 2 guys will never understand or find out how to evaluate.
Anything else you like to know feel free to ask, and ill reply as i like. |
And once again, I have never said CRTīs are interlaced. And a very experienced CRT guy just told me that the Marquee 9500LC is by far NOT the best CRT ever built, and I have written down many of the flaws it have to proove my point. According to you it is the only CRT with a decent picture, but you will have to modify it first.
I just asked you what you tried to show us with this screenshot, but as you alwas do you just refuse or ignore to answer my question.
So I only leave you with only one: What did you try to show us with this screenshot?? Can you answer that?
The uniformity problems, no lines, all the noise I have to draw my own conclutions about.
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Diddern
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go?? |
If you look around on this forum you will find all the information you need about Marquee mods and improvements.
Us who like CRT projectors, and know that they are not interlaced will continue share experience that you 2 guys will never understand or find out how to evaluate.
Anything else you like to know feel free to ask, and ill reply as i like. |
Trust me Mr Stridsvognen I know how to evaluate I have done this for a long long time.
Andreas not much with just crt but a bunch with different digitals and also against crt.
Do not need to be I engineer to draw the fact.
And I still like CRT, but to compare with a digital you know what I have tested and also given proofs.
And so far I have not seen before and after pictures up close on a modded marquee. If there is posted someware bring them here.
And I like to see it from users, not the one that sells. Look at the picture from Greg, both you and me and everyone see that
It's not have any value at all.
Answer the questions that you are asked and do not call people names, because you can't answer it or don't know.
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go?? |
If you look around on this forum you will find all the information you need about Marquee mods and improvements.
Us who like CRT projectors, and know that they are not interlaced will continue share experience that you 2 guys will never understand or find out how to evaluate.
Anything else you like to know feel free to ask, and ill reply as i like. |
And once again, I have never said CRTīs are interlaced.
I just asked you what you tried to show us with this screenshot, but as you alwas do you just refuse or ignore to answer my question.
So I only leave you with only one: What did you try to show us with this screenshot?? Can you answer that?
The uniformity problems, no lines, all the noise I have to draw my own conclutions about. |
Bandwidth linearity to gain.
And as expected no one asked for the pixel clock, or the max light output.
We dont need help from 2 digital idiots who have no clue about how a CRT projector works.
Everybody also know why your here, you have 1 purpose and thts to make CRT look bad, Dildo proved that with his 808 stunt long time ago, and the interlaced comment some time back.
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Diddern
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go?? |
If you look around on this forum you will find all the information you need about Marquee mods and improvements.
Us who like CRT projectors, and know that they are not interlaced will continue share experience that you 2 guys will never understand or find out how to evaluate.
Anything else you like to know feel free to ask, and ill reply as i like. |
And once again, I have never said CRTīs are interlaced.
I just asked you what you tried to show us with this screenshot, but as you alwas do you just refuse or ignore to answer my question.
So I only leave you with only one: What did you try to show us with this screenshot?? Can you answer that?
The uniformity problems, no lines, all the noise I have to draw my own conclutions about. |
Bandwidth linearity to gain.
And as expected no one asked for the pixel clock, or the max light output.
We dont need help from 2 digital idiots who have no clue about how a CRT projector works.
Everybody also know why your here, you have 1 purpose and thts to make CRT look bad, Dildo proved that with his 808 stunt long time ago, and the interlaced comment some time back. |
Why do you call us names all the time.
Have a anger problem?
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Andreas21
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| Link Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go?? |
If you look around on this forum you will find all the information you need about Marquee mods and improvements.
Us who like CRT projectors, and know that they are not interlaced will continue share experience that you 2 guys will never understand or find out how to evaluate.
Anything else you like to know feel free to ask, and ill reply as i like. |
And once again, I have never said CRTīs are interlaced.
I just asked you what you tried to show us with this screenshot, but as you alwas do you just refuse or ignore to answer my question.
So I only leave you with only one: What did you try to show us with this screenshot?? Can you answer that?
The uniformity problems, no lines, all the noise I have to draw my own conclutions about. |
Bandwidth linearity to gain.
And as expected no one asked for the pixel clock, or the max light output.
We dont need help from 2 digital idiots who have no clue about how a CRT projector works.
Everybody also know why your here, you have 1 purpose and thts to make CRT look bad, Dildo proved that with his 808 stunt long time ago, and the interlaced comment some time back. |
I told you I saw you had good BW, but as I also said you can draw many other conclutions from your picture. bandwith is nothing we talk about as it is not a problem with our current digitals.
And If I may ask what is the light output on your Marquee, I asked MP but as usual I never got an answer. How many lux (measured at your screen) do you get with a full screen 100 IRE pattern
I am not here to make CRT look bad I am only here to make you admit to all the limitations to your Marquee and it goes way beyond MTF and ansi/intrascene contrast. My digitals are far from perfect and I have told about the many weaknesses of the X500 in here, but you and MP seem to think your by eye calibrated and 300000000mhz mod Marqueeīs to be the eight wonder of the world.
This is how it should look from up close even if this is a different pattern.
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| Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go?? |
If you look around on this forum you will find all the information you need about Marquee mods and improvements.
Us who like CRT projectors, and know that they are not interlaced will continue share experience that you 2 guys will never understand or find out how to evaluate.
Anything else you like to know feel free to ask, and ill reply as i like. |
And once again, I have never said CRTīs are interlaced.
I just asked you what you tried to show us with this screenshot, but as you alwas do you just refuse or ignore to answer my question.
So I only leave you with only one: What did you try to show us with this screenshot?? Can you answer that?
The uniformity problems, no lines, all the noise I have to draw my own conclutions about. |
Bandwidth linearity to gain.
And as expected no one asked for the pixel clock, or the max light output.
We dont need help from 2 digital idiots who have no clue about how a CRT projector works.
Everybody also know why your here, you have 1 purpose and thts to make CRT look bad, Dildo proved that with his 808 stunt long time ago, and the interlaced comment some time back. |
Why do you call us names all the time.
Have a anger problem? |
I think that may be it.
And I am insulted to be called a digital idiot as I am an 100% pure analog idiot.
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| Link Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | He will do the same as always, and more and more people see it. Thank God for that.
Come up with what I asked for then your modded marquee and a non modd .
Then we can talk professionally.
Just like every time you are on a forum thread. God work |
Why do we need you 2 digital idiots to see stuff in screenshots that cant be seen to evaluate modifications on CRT projectors.? |
Why donīt you mrKnowitall tell us what you were trying to show us with your wonderful screenshot?
And when you are done: What is all the pink parts in your screenshot and where did all the lines go?? |
If you look around on this forum you will find all the information you need about Marquee mods and improvements.
Us who like CRT projectors, and know that they are not interlaced will continue share experience that you 2 guys will never understand or find out how to evaluate.
Anything else you like to know feel free to ask, and ill reply as i like. |
And once again, I have never said CRTīs are interlaced.
I just asked you what you tried to show us with this screenshot, but as you alwas do you just refuse or ignore to answer my question.
So I only leave you with only one: What did you try to show us with this screenshot?? Can you answer that?
The uniformity problems, no lines, all the noise I have to draw my own conclutions about. |
Bandwidth linearity to gain.
And as expected no one asked for the pixel clock, or the max light output.
We dont need help from 2 digital idiots who have no clue about how a CRT projector works.
Everybody also know why your here, you have 1 purpose and thts to make CRT look bad, Dildo proved that with his 808 stunt long time ago, and the interlaced comment some time back. |
Why do you call us names all the time.
Have a anger problem? |
I think that may be it.
And I am insulted to be called a digital idiot as I am an 100% pure analog idiot. |
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