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How to Adjust only H-Sync with Lumagen Radiance Mini. Craig?
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CxTurbo



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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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That should have been an American Bulldog. lol

He is a massive suck and solid muscle. Although most people are afraid of him here because we have an Pit Bull ban and people see him as a Pit.He is way taller and looks more like a Bullmastiff. My wife walks the Dobe and Bully at the same time and lets just say she has nothing to worry about should someone try to get near. We had an issue on the street with a vehicle theft this summer and they would not let the plain clothes detective within three feet of her to talk. LOL! People ask me why I even bother to have ADT.

Do you know the American Bully breed Craig?

I know this is off topic now but you guys solved the issue that was at hand.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CxTurbo wrote:
Do you know the American Bully breed Craig?

Certainly. I am just amazed by the weight of yours. He is a BIG one.

Mostly they are sweet dogs if handled correctly when they are young. I've had lots of friends who have owned them and have had fun with them.

However, a friend of mine literally had her face bitten off by her own while she was sitting on the couch. It's still a mystery why the dog did it, but she was sitting next to him and then the dog just clamped down and pulled. The doctors did and amazing job sewing her face up really well and you can hardly tell it ever happened.

It was really hard for my friend because she really loved the dog. The dog didn't understand what was going on after it happened and was clearly terrified. It was obvious that the dog didn't know what it had done wrong. After much difficult deliberation she wound up having the dog put down though Sad Except for that one time her dog had always been very sweet.

craigr

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing I am wondering is should I be using a 4:2:2 or a 4:4:4 colour space? As I understand it the 4:2:2 requires a third the bandwidth with little to no visual difference. At the moment I have the HTPC set at 4:4:4 the same with the Radiance. If there is little visual difference then in theory it would be better to run 4:2:2 to save as much bandwidth as I can no?
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, all three use the same bandwidth.

Generally speaking you should use 4:2:2 going into and coming out of the Lumagen. This is especially true for BD because BD is mastered in 4:2:0 and converting to 4:2:2 from 4:2:0 will have the fewest errors in the conversion.

4:2:2 will give you the most possible colors and is the highest fidelity of the three. 4:2:2 is running on 12-bit data while the others are lower.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got it. Thanks Craig.

I will switch that out tonight while I am playing with the H-Sync.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can see the difference in many scenes between RBG, YCbCr 444/222. If you pause a scene and look at color transitions in certain images it is very apparent.

craigr

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CIR Engineering wrote:
You can see the difference in many scenes between RBG, YCbCr 444/222. If you pause a scene and look at color transitions in certain images it is very apparent.

craigr


Is it really that important?

Been fighting with my HTPC and custom timings, i have 817p48 configured but my amd Drivers seem to limit me to RGB

Currently using RGB 444 Limited (16-235), is it a real issue not having YCbCr 422 or is it okay on a lesser projector?
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fragzero wrote:
CIR Engineering wrote:
You can see the difference in many scenes between RBG, YCbCr 444/222. If you pause a scene and look at color transitions in certain images it is very apparent.

craigr


Is it really that important?

Been fighting with my HTPC and custom timings, i have 817p48 configured but my amd Drivers seem to limit me to RGB

Currently using RGB 444 Limited (16-235), is it a real issue not having YCbCr 422 or is it okay on a lesser projector?

It matters more if you have a video processor than if you don't. Do you have a VP?

Also, the Lumagen can't accept 10 or 12 bit 444 so if you aren't using a VP than if you have a source that supports 1- or 12 bit 444 you may find this better than 422. It really depends on your hardware.

craigr

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain with HTPC

HTPC --- Onkyo Reciever --- HDFury 4

RGB 444 Limited range + HDfury at 16-235


Specs from the HDFury 4


Input: 1 x HDMI v1.4 (DVI 1.0 compatible)
12-bit deep color HDMI native support

Is this the 12 bit you are talking about?
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