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stridsvognen Guest
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:36 pm Post subject: P19 LUG tubes, help.!! |
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I just bought a Green P19LUG43HKA, and need to know what other tubes it will Work well with.?
I can get a Blue P19LUG03BMP, and Wonder if they are ok together, light/ gamma curve.?
Anything i need to know compared to my standard P19LCP tubes.?
I have a Green PT22 tube, and the gamma curve and light output is useless on that model.
Need some help here.. PLEASE..!!
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Tim in Phoenix
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 4379 Location: Phoenix
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Hello
I have some new Red LUGs available, PM me
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stridsvognen Guest
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Are there different type of LUG, or is the last name like 43HKA and 03BMP just the code for the color.?
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Decibel
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Ile
Joined: 09 Mar 2006 Posts: 1491 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:32 am Post subject: Re: P19 LUG tubes, help.!! |
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stridsvognen wrote: | I just bought a Green P19LUG43HKA, and need to know what other tubes it will Work well with.?
I can get a Blue P19LUG03BMP, and Wonder if they are ok together, light/ gamma curve.? |
Don't have any experience of LUG's, but according to this HKA and BMP seem to have guite a difference in light output.
stridsvognen wrote: | I have a Green PT22 tube, and the gamma curve and light output is useless on that model. |
It could be P43 version of PT22. Then it flicker like hell with low refreshrates and need 72Hz to get good light output.
It seems that P19LUG43HKA is not so called fast phosphorus tube even name have 43 in it.
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25500&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
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barclay66
Joined: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1291 Location: Germany
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Ile: That's a great chart!
Do You have a PDF of the corresponding document? Would You be willing to share it (maybe via PM)?
To my knowledge the P19LUG43HKA has normal phosphor...
Regards,
barclay66
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stridsvognen Guest
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Now i been looking around, and found this..
So the BMB HKA and so on is just the color code... Makes sence with the light output, like blue dont have a straight curv, and less output.
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gjaky
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:28 am Post subject: |
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stridsvognen wrote: | Now i been looking around, and found this..
So the BMB HKA and so on is just the color code... Makes sence with the light output, like blue dont have a straight curv, and less output. |
That is why added the electrohome engineers blue gamma correction to the VIM 02p (compared to VIMs that came from the older 8000/9000 machines), and because of the low light output of the blue you have to defoucus blue, gaining light output with this. The blue BMB phosphor is already a fast phosphor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphor
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CIR Engineering
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Link Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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The P19LUG43HKA is a regular slow decay green phosphor. It's the same phosphor in the LCP, LQF, and LPB. In fact, it is an identical tube in every way to the P19LQF as found in the Sony G90.
The P19LUG has the highest resolution gun and can attain the tightest beam of any of the tubes out there. The P19LUG and P19LQF also have a "scatter grid" to supposedly help reduce noise and improve edge focus. Those are the only two tubes with the scatter grid.
The P19LUG green tube is not available in a P43 phosphor at all.
Any P19LUG tubes (red, blue, green) can be matched well with any other P19LUG or P19LQF tubes of any color. The P19LPB is also a good match for the P19LUG. The P19LPB has the same phosphor and high resolution gun as the LUG, but the LPB does not have the extra scatter grid.
If you are putting the P19LUG43HKA in a Marquee, it can also be used with LCP blue and red tubes, but the P19LUG43HKA will not be as bright in a Marquee as an LCP. You can increase brightness with an LUG in a Marquee with better focus coils (frankenyokes) because you will then be able to raise the contrast higher before blooming.
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Link Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Craig.
Now i will dare to try it ..
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CIR Engineering
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Link Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Do you have the pinouts? Here they are:
craigr
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stridsvognen Guest
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Link Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:15 am Post subject: |
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There is a green P19LUG on its way here, so ill report back in 10-14 days when i have it,, see if it survives the trip, and how its working in the Marquee.
It comes complet in Marquee LC house and magnetics, so should not take to long to install.
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Link Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Its here... Damn it looks nice.. Brand new..!! In original packing.
And the price was a steal..
Just need to check that its working perfect.
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barclay66
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Link Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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You suck!!!
*Having a feeling that I told You so already on other occasions?*
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stridsvognen Guest
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Link Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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barclay66 wrote: | You suck!!!
*Having a feeling that I told You so already on other occasions?* |
Yeah.. But it actualy dont feel that bad to know it..
Now i just hope its working perfect..
Got a Lumagen HDQ yesterday that was defect, but the seller refunded all the money, so i cant complain.
Ohh how was it.. are you the sucker that grabed the FGM from Craig..?
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Nashou66
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stridsvognen Guest
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Link Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Nashou66 wrote: | What was wrong with the HDQ?
Nashou |
It had been wet on the board, so oxidated around and under the processor chip.. I have cleaned and done everything possible, no way to save it.
Looks like someone might cleaned it, and water dripped down on the board true the ventilation holes in the top cover.
And it had been stored for 3 years with no use, with batteries in the remote.. not very pretty to open the door to the battery on the remote to.
Its a 500$ trade in unit for a new Radiance..
To my surprice it uses the same 3D comb filter chip as the Crystalio, so would love to try it.
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Nashou66
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barclay66
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Link Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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stridsvognen wrote: | Ohh how was it.. are you the sucker that grabed the FGM from Craig..? |
Ummm... Yes!
And today I was able to grab a -02 VIM Board on ebay for less than 20€...
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