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3D-EVOLVER: 1080p dual projector 3D processor (DISCONTINUED)
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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opv wrote:
What about dolby3D?
Is this unit compatible with dichroic filters\glasses instead of polarized ones?


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We support all polarization schemes. At the moment, we only provide linear and the circular, but soon we will be able to offer a Dolby type solution at an additional cost. This way home users who want to setup a passive 3D system and don't want to have to get a silver screen have an option.


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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: The 3D-Evolver is now shipping (1 week ahead of schedule).

To order see: http://www.curtpalme.com/3DEvolver.shtm

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
opv wrote:
What about dolby3D?
Is this unit compatible with dichroic filters\glasses instead of polarized ones?


Got this answer back too:

Quote:
We support all polarization schemes. At the moment, we only provide linear and the circular, but soon we will be able to offer a Dolby type solution at an additional cost. This way home users who want to setup a passive 3D system and don't want to have to get a silver screen have an option.


Kal


Thanks Kal, good to know.
One more thing, Dolby3D system requires two components:
1) dichroic filters\glasses
2) color compensation system

Does the 3d evolver gives answer to the second component too?
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

opv wrote:
Thanks Kal, good to know.
One more thing, Dolby3D system requires two components:
1) dichroic filters\glasses
2) color compensation system

Does the 3d evolver gives answer to the second component too?

I sent off a note yesterday and will let you know once I hear back.

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone tried the Evolver with 2 x CRT already ?

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ve read this in the FAQ:

''At the moment, only linear and the circular is supported, but soon the 3D-Evolver will be able to offer a Dolby type solution at an additional cost. This way home users have the option of setting up a passive 3D system without needing a silver screen''

That I find VERY interesting! When will there be more specific news about this?
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THX-UltraII wrote:
That I find VERY interesting! When will there be more specific news about this?

I'm afraid I do not know. Once we have more information it will be posted.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 3D-Evolver price has been reduced. Dolby kits are now also available.

See: http://www.curtpalme.com/3DEvolver.shtm

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
The 3D-Evolver price has been reduced. Dolby kits are now also available.

See: http://www.curtpalme.com/3DEvolver.shtm

Kal
Kal, this could be intersting for me but I need some feedback first on some things.
At the moment I own a Sony HW50 3D projector. The things that bother me are the brightness and flicker in 3D. If I buy the 3D-Evolver and a second Sony HW50, will these the two areas that I will notice big improvement? What are your expectations when I would do this?
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THX-UltraII wrote:
At the moment I own a Sony HW50 3D projector. The things that bother me are the brightness and flicker in 3D. If I buy the 3D-Evolver and a second Sony HW50, will these the two areas that I will notice big improvement? What are your expectations when I would do this?

Yes. As SC mentioned earlier here in this thread, those are the two things that you will likely notice the most (other than the picture being 3D of course). Wink

A while back I updated the order page and added the following information under the "How is the 3D-Evolver different from the 3D-Theater?" section:

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A dual projector setup with both running at 60Hz refresh eliminates the flicker of an active system when each eye only gets 30Hz (as not all projectors support 120Hz). A dual projector setup also doubles the brightness of the system, allowing for larger screens and/or a brighter picture with the 3D glasses on. Brightness is always reduced with single-projector active systems.


Using the Dolby kit means you do not need to use a dedicated silver screen which tends to only get used for 3D (silver screens wash out the blacks and blurring a 2D image to some degree).

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
THX-UltraII wrote:
At the moment I own a Sony HW50 3D projector. The things that bother me are the brightness and flicker in 3D. If I buy the 3D-Evolver and a second Sony HW50, will these the two areas that I will notice big improvement? What are your expectations when I would do this?

Yes. As SC mentioned earlier here in this thread, those are the two things that you will likely notice the most (other than the picture being 3D of course). Wink

A while back I updated the order page and added the following information under the "How is the 3D-Evolver different from the 3D-Theater?" section:

Quote:
A dual projector setup with both running at 60Hz refresh eliminates the flicker of an active system when each eye only gets 30Hz (as not all projectors support 120Hz). A dual projector setup also doubles the brightness of the system, allowing for larger screens and/or a brighter picture with the 3D glasses on. Brightness is always reduced with single-projector active systems.


Using the Dolby kit means you do not need to use a dedicated silver screen which tends to only get used for 3D (silver screens wash out the blacks and blurring a 2D image to some degree).

Kal
I just found a comprehensive thread on the AVS forum about dual projector setup. They just told me that lcos projectors (like 2x a Sony HW50) will give quite some problems with colors when running them in a passive dual setup with Dolby filters.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Link?

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
Link?

Kal


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407101/official-omega-3d-passive-projection-system-thread#post_21943063

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407101/official-omega-3d-passive-projection-system-thread/90#post_22714630

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407101/official-omega-3d-passive-projection-system-thread/90#post_22713447

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407101/official-omega-3d-passive-projection-system-thread/90#post_22713229
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

what do I need to make 3D with Evolver to use my 2x2 Sony G70 Stack?

At the moment I use Andres software for edgeblending with mpc-hc.

In add. I could double it with two more G70.

Do I need now 3D-Evolver Dolby Kits?

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

didaschi wrote:
Hi,

what do I need to make 3D with Evolver to use my 2x2 Sony G70 Stack?

At the moment I use Andres software for edgeblending with mpc-hc.

In add. I could double it with two more G70.

Do I need now 3D-Evolver Dolby Kits?

Regards

Didaschi


A silver screen is required for circular polarization, a regular screen can be used if you use Dolby filters. Dolby filters are more expensive, hence the increased price if you see on our 3D-Evolver order page here:

http://www.curtpalme.com/3DEvolver.shtm

Iíve recently spoken to the manufacturer about using the Evolver on a stacked CRT setup and confirmed a few things:

Each CRT lens would need to be covered, thus, 6 total filters with 3 for LEFT and 3 for RIGHT.

Unfortunately the Dolby filters are considerably more expensive than circular polarization. For 6 filters it would be in the range of $1000 USD given the size and the quantity whereas, the circular filters will be far cheaper and including the cost of the silver screen, you would be saving money.

So for a CRT based setup they think a circular polarization would be the best (as opposed to spectra separation via Dolby style filters).

But in the end the choice is up to you of course. If interested we can price the solution accordingly. Email us at 3Dexperts@curtpalme.com.

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

is it possible to use two Benq w1070 or two Optoma HD33 together with vip evolver?

Does someone have one of them tested?

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

didaschi wrote:
is it possible to use two Benq w1070 or two Optoma HD33 together with vip evolver?

It's been tested with the (very bright) Optoma TH1060P and HD23 and they work well. There's no reason why the HD33 would not work as well. Same with the Benq W1070.

While many different projector types will work, DLP projectors like these are what the manufacturer recommends first.

Using the 3D-Evolver with the Dolby Kit makes sense if you wish to keep your existing screen. A silver screen is required for 3D content when using the linear/circular kit. Silver screens are not well suited for 2D content as they wash out the blacks and blur the 2D image. If you intend to show both 2D and 3D content and do not want to use two separate screens, the Dolby Kit make sense. The caveat is that Dolby glasses are more expensive (about $15 each instead of $5).

The 3D-Evolver kits may be purchased here:

http://www.curtpalme.com/3DEvolver.shtm

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:05 pm    Post subject: dual projector Reply with quote

hello

i want to make a nice passiv 3d, at my home, im thinking buy it, if you no i will work.


does anybody no, if its possible to make passive 3d with 2 Epson EH-TW6100W, and one 3d evolved 1080p. and circular polarized kit. and a silver screen.

looking forward to hear from you guys.


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PostLink    Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: dual projector Reply with quote

frupper wrote:
does anybody no, if its possible to make passive 3d with 2 Epson EH-TW6100W, and one 3d evolved 1080p. and circular polarized kit. and a silver screen.

Yes. Should work without any issues. Projectors are 1080p (FULLHD) and bright.

You may purchase the 3D-Evolver directly on our website here:

http://www.curtpalme.com/3DEvolver.shtm

We ship worldwide.

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