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High Definition, We Hardly Knew Ye

 
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Nashou66




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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:56 pm    Post subject: High Definition, We Hardly Knew Ye Reply with quote


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I wrote a post on my personal website taking a look at 4K from a filmmaking/workflow perspective, a post that subsequently sparked some debate amongst my filmmaker friends. While that topic may not wholly align with our enthusiast needs here at Home Theater Review, the concept behind it is one that I feel many of you may find interesting, even a little enlightening. As many of you know, 4K is coming and soon, and while some of you may be excited at the prospect of more pixels enriching your viewing experience, I ask, why now? You see, it appears that, going off of what I've seen, read and been told, our soon-to-be-4K universe is going to look an awful lot like our current HD one. Now, what if I told you that no one at the mass market consumer level (that's us) has even seen HD? It's true.


If you ask any home theater enthusiast what the best HD source is, he or she is bound to tell you it's a Blu-ray player spinning a Blu-ray disc. However, what if I told you that Blu-ray was but a watered-down version of HD, and that there was still more to the experience yet to be tapped? Our current Blu-ray standard calls for 1920x1080 pixels with 8-bit color sampled in 4:2:0/4:2:2 in the Rec. 709 color space with a maximum bit rate of around 30M bits per second, using some form of MPEG compression scheme. That sounds good, until you begin to look at what today's modern HDTV displays are actually capable of displaying.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how some will enjoy the "true HD " when some complain that output 1 on an Oppo Bd is too sharp and doesnt look like film.
If that level of clarity is too much for some what will they think of 4K ?

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because something is mastered (captured/workflow) in 4K doesn't mean the intent is to deliver it on a disk in 4K. Also, just because something is <4K doesn't benefit the end experience cannot be benefited from by a 4K display, either.

And now add to this the notion people with questionable vision (and perfect vision) hardly ever sit within the threshold in order for their eyes to even resolve that kind of detail and you get the same cowsumers you've gotten the past century.

Just moo along, cows.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we just need 35 or 70mm film projectors for our theaters, and to get the companies to sell the video in that format, then we could have the best picture possible Very Happy
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy112 wrote:
Maybe we just need 35 or 70mm film projectors for our theaters, and to get the companies to sell the video in that format, then we could have the best picture possible Very Happy


GET OUTTA MY HEAD! Very Happy

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