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[thewolfman]

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EDIT: It's not the moome card there's anything wrong with - it's my old pj.

[thewolfman]

Never mind. Got it working again, with switching to the other LINK and with some trial and error got it back on track. Weird. Before the picture went away it started to flicker like mad, I don't know how it looks like, but it looked like 24 Hz all off a sudden. Didn't do anything but turn it on.

And also prior to that, needed to do convergences all over again, even though locked, and that has happen to me some half a dozen times and bound to happen again. I guess I need to shift some boards again. If anyone has a clue to what might be wrong, let me know. No use in putting in the ceiling until it’s more stabile and reliable.

[Nashou66]

When doing the convergence make sure you unlock it first before doing it or at least unlock it then lock it again after your done converging. Otherwise you'll not save the last convergence.

Nashou

[thewolfman]

I always do that to make sure it wont go off, so it must be something wrong with one or more of the boards, but I can live with it for now.

[Nashou66]

Then the battery might be dead on your CLM. It should be close to 3 volts.

Nashou

[thewolfman]

The diagnostic in the back lits up H Fail for a few secounds, but then goes out. Will have a close eye on that as I haven't seen that there was an diagnostic before (novis still) so maybe there is something wrong with that.

[Nashou66]

Well the CLM hold's all the data for memory set ups . you can pull it out and measure the battery from the underside of the PCB board. it is soldered in place. Have you done any cleaning of the Contacts of the boards themselves and of any removable chips and add on boards yet? Doing that when you first get a marquee of un known service history is a must.

Athanasios

[thewolfman]

No I haven't done any cleaning at all, so will buy the propor alchohol and do some cleaning when I get the chance. Will try to measure the battery once I get hold of a voltagemter to. Shouldn't be to expensive. Thanks for you advice on this.

[thewolfman]

Btw, I found the battery on many sites and looks like only four pins to be solderd. I can maybe do this myself actually.

http://www.battery-kutter.de/Knopfzellen/Lithium-CR-BR/Renata-175-0-Lithium.html

[Nashou66]

Try to find DeOxit cleaner and protectant for the chips and connectors. Also buy an IC puller.

Then when done cleaning the contacts clean the entire board with Denatured alcohol and a soft tooth brush.

Athanasios

[thewolfman]

I found Deoxit and the other stuff, but will have to wait until I can afford it, as it is rather expensive.

[thewolfman]

I found a way around the flicker problem; by altering the refresh rate on my computer it goes back in working order for hours on end. I can live with it. I randomly choose a different refresh rate (I go with 24 Hz) and then back to usual 60 Hz, and the problem is solved. No flickering. So the moome has nothing to do with it.

But with one problem solved (I know, almost) another one emerges. Now, all off a sudden, the green goes like 50 % less harp. The grid goes twice its size and can only be solved by turning the pj off for some period of time. At the moment I don’t know whether that requires pj to cool down completely, or by turning it off and on a couple of times and hope it snaps back in place.

I asked the guys at HD Fury whether their HD Fury 3D will be better than my V3 with the 72 Hz problem, and they said it would, because the moome can’t handle the bandwidth required for 72 Hz, but straight VGA cables and HD Fury will. I can’t get Powerstrip to work so looking for some options. The numbers won’t change when fiddling with numbers; it just goes back it was and 60 Hz. Very annoying. But will give it some more tries before giving up on the matter.

[Nashou66]

[thewolfman]

One can’t argue about the pics that are for sure. In all honesty, I didn’t take their word for it with HD Fury being the better product. Pitty the XE/XS+ is so damn expensive, otherwise gone that route. Nahh.. as a poor fellow I have no chioce but go with Powerstrip.

[wildchild22]

Please note that comparison was not the hdfury 4 aka 3dfury.

Also I said hdmi cannot handle the 72hz hdmi mode that is in the hdfury 4 that has big porch settings enough to allow a nec xg run 1080p@72hz with no image folder over.

Here are the timings for that mode

fclk = 187.11MHz

2310 htot

1920 hact

88 h front porch

44 h width



1125 vtot

1080 vact

4 v front porch

5 v width

[thewolfman]

My flickering problem is put to the test with going back to moome V1 and rule out what’s being wrong. Several hours later, starting from last night, there has been no flickering. Have an ongoing talk with moome himself on what might be wrong and will give VGA 5xBNC a chance next week when the cable gets here, that was his choice on what to try out next.

It seems there might be two separate problems, one being the green tube going in and out of focus, the other being the flickering, and don’t think they originate from the same place. I have ruled out heat problem, as it started right away both yesterday and now tonight. It’s a reoccurring phenomenon, and happens maybe once or twice within a movie, or many hours apart. I will trade places on the VNB. from green to blue, whilst putting in my basically new green tube maybe next week. That should rule out whether VNB is the problem with focusing.

[thewolfman]

Just when I thought things were going my way, with moome V3 being the culprit, the flicker is back. Sad, I was really hoping on getting the EXT moome 3D coming out soon as a replacement, but nhaa.. my rainy cloud is still with me and will have to settle with the V3 after all. In any such case, it happens to be a very nice up grade because that sharpness and clarity, and most important, the blackness in unbelievable. I couldn’t believe my eyes when I had to go back to the V1 as the blacks are completely off now. Looks like I’m watching a LCD pj from the looks of it, and very glad I can go back so soon.

End of story.

[thewolfman]

I'm sorry for my bad behaviour and deleting some post.

[Nashou66]

the remote works fine for me. You have to aim it at the card itself. Gamma works as well. The trim pot does not have a beginning or end.

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6520

Lower the gamma with the gamma button till the yellow light stays on. this point is the remotes zero .

there is a guide you can download as well in that post

Nashou

[thewolfman]

The trim pot starts at 07.00 and stops at 11.00. There is no such thing as limitless adjusting on this thing at least. I just measured it. And I put brand new batterys in the remote to make sure.