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Link Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like a Pinot Noir, from where????
I might get you to build one for me the way things are going with the OEM power suplies.
Congrats on the build and test. temps seem good.
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Link Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Nice, Nash!
Glad it is all starting to come together for you.
I was hoping to use an Antek Inc toroid for mine. But, While putting together parts for some MY_Ref mono blocks I went to look for some 300VA 24-0-24's. It looks like Antek had a fire and will be out of the game for a bit. Oh, well I suppose I can wait or I will look on eBay for some R cores for the amps and the Sigma. I could always do Piltron xformers as well but they are normally 2-3 times the price as Anteks although the quality is top notch and they are located in Toronto.
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Nashou66
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Link Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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HK-Steve wrote: | Looks like a Pinot Noir, from where????
I might get you to build one for me the way things are going with the OEM power suplies.
Congrats on the build and test. temps seem good.
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The Wine is actually my Dad's home fermentation. It is a bit Sweet and strong.
I still have to give the Linear Power supply a full test. It does run much hotter than
the SMPS original. So as to longevity that is to be seen. If it does fail then I think a fan is in store.
The rectifying Diodes get super hot. 70-80c. But AMB said that is fine. Not sure how he can say that the 150c max diode running hot is ok but the 175c mosfet running that hot is not ok.
So time will tell. I think I'll run one radiance with the new supply and see how ti goes. I think the HDQ and radiance should draw the same current. My meter I dont think reads current correctly.
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HK-Steve
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Link Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:46 am Post subject: |
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Wow, those temps do seem very high, seems like a stressed supply temp wise.
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Nashou66
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HK-Steve
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Link Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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which diodes are you using? MUR820's ???
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Link Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Ok here is how I plan to put these into the chassis. I want to drill two holes into the sides and into the heat sinks and mount one on each end of the chassis. The one end of the PCB board slides into the Slots of the corner members of the chaises. The other end of the heat sink will be also held up by a piece of aluminum Rod. I might actually get some more heat dissipation through the side of the chassis this way. The Transformer might fit under one of the boards but I think I might keep it in the middle to keep any Magnetic noise from the power supplies. There is not enough room to put a cover over the Xfrmr to shield it.
Then I will put the 12 volt power supplies for my TV ones in the middle. there should be enough room for the total of 4 PCB boards. those will have the On board heat sinks since they barely draw 1 amp.
I will have to cut the top to go around the heat sinks as it slides in at one end. You have to remove the ends to get the top off by sliding it out. So my plan is to mount the PS's except for the one on the end I need to remove to put the top on, and slide the top on and then put the side plate with the heat sink screwed to it with PS onto the chassis. then screw it down. Hopefully I wont have to open it up at all
I think that should work and look nice. The heat sinks will come out the top so the heat will not affect the other PS's.
The wiring of the chassis will be another logistical issue I'll deal with after.
I am wondering if I should use metal cutting scissors or a metal saw for the top cuts. its thin Aluminum about 1mm thick. I will probably use some rubber gasket on the cut edges to butt up against the exposed heat sink. Or maybe try to cut slits on the ends of the heat sink that the top will touch so they actually slide into the heat sink. That will be a tough
work of precision to do tho.
But this is fun I have to say.
And who said for me to just use a PC power supply!?!
Nashou
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Link Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Looks great so far, keep us posted on your progress.
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:56 am Post subject: |
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So I'm looking at layout options and I think I'm going to go this Route . My only concern is the Transformers and any magnetic fields they might produce placing metal near the plates seemed not to have any magnetism so I think Im ok. They absolutely have no Hum, These Harmonds are quiet .
So here are the temporary layout pics. All 5 power supplies.
I figure keeping the Transformers away from the mosfets( on the heat sinks) is the best way to go. And if there is noise I can easily flip the PCB's around.
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Why not put some copper sheets around the transformers to isolate and noise and shunt it to ground?
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Nashou66
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:14 am Post subject: |
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AnalogRocks wrote: | Why not put some copper sheets around the transformers to isolate and noise and shunt it to ground? |
I was thinking of something similar. I have some sheet metal and could build a wall around the Xfrmr's
and use the mount locations for the three PCB boards to secure it and then a few more screws from the front
panel.
What I really need to do is have at least one power the radiance While I watch a full movie.
These are really not tested fully. I have only hooked up an HDQ to it and that was just on the bench powered on and not connected to a source for evaluation of an image.
That might be tomorrow.
Athanasios
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HK-Steve
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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Looks good, will be a heavy sucker once finished.
Will be interested in your impressions once hooked up properly, as I want an upgrade to my original XS+ supply.
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:15 am Post subject: |
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HK-Steve wrote: | Looks good, will be a heavy sucker once finished.
Will be interested in your impressions once hooked up properly, as I want an upgrade to my original XS+ supply.
Cheers |
I just weighed it and it comes in at 10lbs.
I just hooked it up to one radiance and am letting the PJ's warm up.
the 4.71 VDC out seems to be enough for the XS . I was worried about the slight drop.
I tried a hand full of 5.1 diodes and all were under 5 volts. But the ones I got were 10% so its with in the specs. I need to find some more precise.
Will report back after a half hour.
Nashou
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Well maybe, and just maybe there could be some improvement in SQ, not having those SMPS connected, but most BD players projectors and other surround stuff is full of SMPS.
So im not sure if less SMPS really do any difference.. You tell us.
Nice work.. Will you start production soon, and trow one in for free with a set of bellows..?
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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stridsvognen wrote: | Well maybe, and just maybe there could be some improvement in SQ, not having those SMPS connected, but most BD players projectors and other surround stuff is full of SMPS.
So im not sure if less SMPS really do any difference.. You tell us.
Nice work.. Will you start production soon, and trow one in for free with a set of bellows..? |
Funny you should say that. I had a hum in my right surround speaker. I thought it was a bad ground connection on the audio cable from the pre to the amp. I fixed that as the ground shield solder joint was cracked on the cable. But the hum was still there, but it did fix the clipping light from coming on in the amp. But now after I use the new PS on the one radiance it is gone. Coincidence? maybe. i have to check more.
But I am very happy right now with the Sigma-11.
Next is the 12 vdc for the TV-Ones. I think one sigma 11 with the tall on board heat sinks should be able to handle two
Tv-Ones.
I might try hooking up the second radiance to the same Sigma 11 and see if it can power two XS's.
Athanasios
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