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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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Link Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: Building a classic computer to run a classic OS |
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Back in 1999 I had a PC that had 30 something operating systems on it. I did a clean out and got rid of most of that old stuff.
I'm feeling nostalgic so I want to build a crazy fast 1996 PC. I'm searching for a Compaq Proliant 6500 with quad pentium pro motherboard and 256MB of EDO ECC ram x 4. I'll add a Matrox G400 or G200 PCI card and a soundblaster AWE32 card. I can't recall which capture card worked with this system but I'm sure I'll find out. Of course being a classic system I'll put the 4x SCSI CD-ROM drive with caddy and a whopping 6gig SCSI drive.
The operating system? BeOS.
I want to try that again. Just for fun.
So in 1996 dollars that system would have cost as much as a car. Let us see what it will cost me.
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jantje112
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Link Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Beos.. Runs from within Windows? Tried it à few times. Never got me for some reason.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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Link Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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No BeOS not in windows. Just BeOS by itself
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garyfritz
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Link Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Jeremy, I have a Matrox G450 dual-head card that I was about to throw out. I don't have any systems that have AGP ports any more. You can have it for the price of shipping if you want it.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:37 am Post subject: |
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garyfritz wrote: | Jeremy, I have a Matrox G450 dual-head card that I was about to throw out. I don't have any systems that have AGP ports any more. You can have it for the price of shipping if you want it. |
Yeah I can use that. I'll PM you
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Classic computer? classic OS - dude i was sure that you meant a DecSystem-10. you know, 35 bit word. with REAL core memory. or at least a VAX/VMS
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zaphod wrote: | Classic computer? classic OS - dude i was sure that you meant a DecSystem-10. you know, 35 bit word. with REAL core memory. or at least a VAX/VMS |
When you get THAT classic then it starts to cost money.
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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when we got our VAX 8530, the front end was a PDP11/84 it was the size of a briefcase and was designed to lay flat under the monitor. across the room was a pdp11/74 consisting of of 3 72" tall computer racks.
sold the 11/74 to a collector. stamps are smaller.
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garyfritz
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I remember running Unix on an 11/74 back in 1976 or so...
How about a CDC Cyber 6600? The PLATO system I worked on in college ran on one of those -- what a piece of sci-fi junk. Some people wrote a Cyber simulator and you can still run PLATO today... how's that for classic, Jeremy? You can still play the game I wrote 35 years ago!!
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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garyfritz wrote: | I remember running Unix on an 11/74 back in 1976 or so...
How about a CDC Cyber 6600? The PLATO system I worked on in college ran on one of those -- what a piece of sci-fi junk. Some people wrote a Cyber simulator and you can still run PLATO today... how's that for classic, Jeremy? You can still play the game I wrote 35 years ago!! | t but first
I'll play it but first I need to get the hair you had back then.
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garyfritz
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Link Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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What, you mean this hair ?? That ain't comin' back unless I rent a fright wig...
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zaphod
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 am Post subject: |
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garyfritz wrote: | I remember running Unix on an 11/74 back in 1976 or so...
How about a CDC Cyber 6600? The PLATO system I worked on in college ran on one of those -- what a piece of sci-fi junk. Some people wrote a Cyber simulator and you can still run PLATO today... how's that for classic, Jeremy? You can still play the game I wrote 35 years ago!! |
yep, worked on the Cyber as well. man what a beast. much nicer to work on the Dec gear.
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:18 am Post subject: |
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AnalogRocks wrote: | garyfritz wrote: | I remember running Unix on an 11/74 back in 1976 or so...
How about a CDC Cyber 6600? The PLATO system I worked on in college ran on one of those -- what a piece of sci-fi junk. Some people wrote a Cyber simulator and you can still run PLATO today... how's that for classic, Jeremy? You can still play the game I wrote 35 years ago!! | t but first
I'll play it but first I need to get the hair you had back then. |
I'm just watching the introduction how to videos, looks like a fun system so far. I've down loaded the emulator as well.
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:54 am Post subject: |
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I missed out on the bidding for a set of 4 matched Pentium Pro 200's with 1 meg cache.
New plan, apparently BeOS will run on Xenon processor. So I'll look for some of those.
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AnalogRocks wrote: | I missed out on the bidding for a set of 4 matched Pentium Pro 200's with 1 meg cache.
New plan, apparently BeOS will run on Xenon processor. So I'll look for some of those. |
I think I have a pair of pentium pro 200's somewhere. I will take a look tonight and let you know.
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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did a lot of those mid-90s, super-duper machines die from a mass of bad capacitors? I seem to remember shortly after I started in my lab a host of socket 370 machines and better crapped out.
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aenglish wrote: | AnalogRocks wrote: | I missed out on the bidding for a set of 4 matched Pentium Pro 200's with 1 meg cache.
New plan, apparently BeOS will run on Xenon processor. So I'll look for some of those. |
I think I have a pair of pentium pro 200's somewhere. I will take a look tonight and let you know. |
Cool thanks....
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Link Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have some old computer junk...I will see what it is and list it for you junk collectors out there.
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A Rogers
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mc86 wrote: | did a lot of those mid-90s, super-duper machines die from a mass of bad capacitors? I seem to remember shortly after I started in my lab a host of socket 370 machines and better crapped out. |
You might find this interesting
http://www.dashdist.com/1u2u/company/capacitor.html
Pretty sure that Pentium pros came out before the bad cap problems.
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greg_mitch wrote: | I have some old computer junk...I will see what it is and list it for you junk collectors out there. |
Junk is spelt classic
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