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kjrowland
Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 2 Location: Colorado
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: Mitsubishi WT-46805 |
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The convergence seems to be off and I can not change the screen to anything but "expand" this is causing a distortion. It makes everything look like you are watching a 3D movie without the glasses on. Is something I can fix or do I need to call a repair man? I do not have the original remote, (do I need it)?
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Clarence
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 3047 Location: Northern Virginia
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Link Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Post a screenshot so we can tell if it needs a simple convergence alinment or if a chip on the convergence board has failed
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kjrowland
Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 2 Location: Colorado
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: Screen Shots |
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Does this help?
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ecrabb
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 12471 Location: Iowa
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Link Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, lordy - that is bad. I'll let the techie-heads here chime in, but that definitely looks like a bad convergence board or component on the convergence board.
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macgyver655
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 6950
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Link Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, looks like convergence chip failure. Lots of soldering to replace parts and you need the original remote to adjust when done.
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Rolls-Royce
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Victorville, CA
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Link Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I have lots of trepidation here about disagreeing with macgyver, but it may also be that the convergence ICs just need to be resoldered. It's a common failure mode for many brands of these CRT RPTVs (I had to do my 46807 a couple of years ago) due to thermal expansion and contraction of the solder joints. The ICs are run hard in these applications, and the heatsinking used is just enough to keep them from burning up. Some of that heat gets conducted out to the joints where the ICs are soldered to the board and they eventually develop fine cracks. Under magnification a cracked solder joint can display a tiny ring on the joint around the pin-looks kind of like a miniature nipple and aureola.
The service manual for your set details a procedure for removing the entire light box and mainboard assembly as a unit. It's much easier and faster than trying to remove just the mainboard. Remove it, turn it upside down on some padding, and the IC joints will be right there for resoldering. They'll also be easier to replace if you want to go that route. If you do want to replace them, make sure you get Sanyo ICs. Craig Rounds ("CIR Engineering" on this forum) has more information on this repair and which ICs you'll need.
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Curt Palme CRT Tech
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 18047 Location: Langley, BC
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Link Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, I've got no problems disagreeing with ya!
I've seen that too, rings around the solder joints, but some wave soldering seems to do that without causing solder joint issues. The problem is that the IC leads break loose from the actual chip substrate, so if you suspect a convergence chip, just change it already. Resoldering the chip MIGHT reseat the lead temporarily on the chip substrate, but several on/off cycles and it will die again.
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Rolls-Royce
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Victorville, CA
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Link Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, Curt. Like you, I've seen other rings on solder joints, too. However, with this particular manifestation, the ring IS the crack and you can see a tiny shadow in it with good lighting and a magnifier. I agree that this may be a temporary fix, but on my set, the resolder has lasted at least 2 years with no problems so far. Now, just to be on the safe side, right after I did the resoldering, I got the proper ICs and they're in my stash in case of an eventual failure.
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It does a great job and the pictures from it are crystal clear. I even marvel at the improvement in the Cox Cable signal n this set.As far as price it starts at 3k but you can get it on sale for about 2800.00, and you can even beat them up on price then.The sound isn''t bad,at least to me, its just that the quality doesn''t match the picture.
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Rolls-Royce
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 277 Location: Victorville, CA
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Link Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| petercheck wrote: | | It does a great job and the pictures from it are crystal clear. I even marvel at the improvement in the Cox Cable signal n this set.As far as price it starts at 3k but you can get it on sale for about 2800.00, and you can even beat them up on price then.The sound isn''t bad,at least to me, its just that the quality doesn''t match the picture. |
Huh? Ah, moderator-edited spam, I'll bet!
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AnalogRocks Moderator
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 20961 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Link Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Rolls-Royce wrote: | | petercheck wrote: | | It does a great job and the pictures from it are crystal clear. I even marvel at the improvement in the Cox Cable signal n this set.As far as price it starts at 3k but you can get it on sale for about 2800.00, and you can even beat them up on price then.The sound isn''t bad,at least to me, its just that the quality doesn''t match the picture. |
Huh? Ah, moderator-edited spam, I'll bet!  |
I doubt there was any edit. Allot of the spammers just copy and paste random stuff from other posts.
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