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PostLink    Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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I agree drags but if What HK Mods says is true that the new rules state the HDMI input must be on the main input PCB board of the display then the input cards are not an option. Only way around it is if the card is sent to moome and he somehow hard wires it the Video input boards of the PJ's.

As consumers we sat on our asses and did nothing with lobbing the lawmakers.

we want our HD and now WE have t play by their rules. This sucks, really sucks.

I'm going to go listen to some vinyl before they make that illegal too. Wink

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kal wrote:
At this moment CurtPalme.com is not listing any HDfury content at all for the manufacturer.

Kal

I imagine Kal could have said "For legal reasons, CurtPalme.com is not listing any HDfury content at all for the manufacturer." without getting into any trouble, and that would have made it perfectly clear to everyone what was going on. I do not think it's good business leave your loyal customers hanging like that. They deserve at least a vague explanation.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought one of the very last from Monoprice. There now out of stock and disappearing fast elsewhere. If you want one you better buy it today...
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of today HDCP rules: "device shall not allow the output of deciphered HDCP content in any analog representation"
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With that wording experiencing any content would be impossible since the human nervous system is analog. Better not look at your display, plug you ears, and don't event think about thinking about the content you legally own
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trebortaergeht wrote:
With that wording experiencing any content would be impossible since the human nervous system is analog. Better not look at your display, plug you ears, and don't event think about thinking about the content you legally own


I fully agree, also they mention "Presentation Device" for which they give no definition and don't even bother answering anything about it

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of today the Fury 1 is still listed as in stock at Monoprice. Last chance...

http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=hd+fury&x=17&y=10
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HKmod wrote:
As of today HDCP rules: "device shall not allow the output of deciphered HDCP content in any analog representation"


If the penalty for breaking the rules is key revocation, what guarantee is there, that a newly purchased HDFury will continue to function for the forseeable future?
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dash.dash wrote:
HKmod wrote:
As of today HDCP rules: "device shall not allow the output of deciphered HDCP content in any analog representation"


If the penalty for breaking the rules is key revocation, what guarantee is there, that a newly purchased HDFury will continue to function for the forseeable future?


The penalty for breaking the rules IS NOT KEY REVOCATION so question is irrelevant sir, sorry.
The penalty is a court case at the end if they feel you are too annoying to them.

I already mentionned that HDfury past , present and futur will work FOREVER !

Please make sure you read the other thread first : http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=281173

Since Master Key is public they need HDCP2.0 and HDMI2.0 to do such things , that means you also need new equipment, so guess what's coming now Wink ... and still, they would have the same issue to point and locate several small batch within millions of ICs sold.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have missed this but is it still legal to own such a devise now in both the US and Canada or selling it used ?

Even if you don't use it....... Wink Wink Wink
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until judged otherwise by court, YES it is.
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HKmod wrote:
As of today HDCP rules: "device shall not allow the output of deciphered HDCP content in any analog representation"


I guess the next question is do the human eyes see in digital or analog... Wink
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who would I contact now about getting an HDFury2 repaired? The analog signal suddenly died, although the blue light still comes on.

I am not located in North America, if that helps.

edit: nevermind, I already got a reply from the paypal address from my order. That was fast!
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And yet, HDCP has been compromised. A master key has been published and it's scattered all over the internet.

Adding new restrictions now is truly a case of shutting the gate after the horses are long gone.


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PostLink    Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:35 am    Post subject: whoa Reply with quote

I guess we will catch up to you in Europe in a while, then we can all live in Big brother the Fourth Reich, the land of the free?
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where have I been? Just noticed today the HD Fury missing from the site. My HD Fury III works great with my Sony G70. No issues so I have not been looking for posts.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The analog sunset set in the USA and Canada on 01/01/2011 ....... Rolling Eyes
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