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aenglish · Last edited by aenglish on Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:43 am; edited 1 time in total

I just recieved my new EXT-FullHD v2 last week and had a chance to play on the weekend. First of all, I am thrilled with the improvment it has made to my picture. The black boost and gamma adjustments are AWESOME!

I am having some issues with handshaking though my amplifier. I have a WDTV, PS3, and a Pace cable box connected through an Onkyo TX-SR706 reciever to the Moome wich resides on top of my Barco BG808s projector. I can get the menu screens on the WDTV, PS3, and the Onkyo to come up every time, but when playing back movies from either the WDTV or PS3 it can take several minutes for the reciever to complete the handshake. I get short bursts of audio while it is attempting the handshake and sometimes it will lock up after 2 or 3 attempte, but sometimes it will take over 10 before it locks, and sometimes it will not lock at all. When the image does lock, the images quality is great, but the initial handshake seems rather intermitant. The Pace cable box will not lock up at all, I just keep getting continued attempts at handshaking.

I have not tried any of the devices directly to the moome at this point, allthough that is my next step (have to pull my components out to change the wiring, no time last night). I did not have this handshake problem with the HDFury3 (beta) that was in place before, I did have some image issues once it was locked, thus the reason I replaced it with the Moome box.

BTW, I have the WDTV and PS3 set to 1080p only, the Pace box is set to 1080i (although 720p made not difference) and the Onkyo 706 is set to output 1080p only on the HDMI output. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Alan

aenglish · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:42 am Post subject:

I had some time to try a few things tonight and here is what I found.

Connecting either the PS3 or the Pace STB directly to the Moome box seems to lock in short order at any resolution.

When these sources are connected to the Onkyo with the moome disconected the reciever indicates a locked signal and I get audio.

When the moome is connected to the Onkyo, I loose the audio from the source and the reciver goes in and out of lock. When it does lock momentarily I get audio, but no picture. have tried with the Onkyo's HDMI output set to Through, 1080i, 1080p, 720p with the same results.

When I seem to be stuck in my 'handshake loop', I can sometimes get it to lock by either movingthe cable from input 0 to input 1 on the moome, or quickly unpluging the cable from the reciever to the moome for less than 1 second and pluggin it back in (either at the input of the moome or output of the reciever). Unplugging the cable for more than 1 second doesn't seem to have any effect and it continues in the loop. Once I have a lock, switching to another input on the reciever or changin resolution on the source I have to start this process all over again.

Lets see if I can explain this, it seems almost like there is a handshake timing issue between the reciever and the moome. When switching inputs, the moome starts to cycle between it's two inputs (I only have one connected) and the reciever atempts to lock to the signal. It almost seems like when the reciever gets a lock on the signal, the moome is maybe looking at the input that is not connected and by the time the moome is looking at the valid input the reciever the hanshake cyle is restarting and the moome goes back to the invalid input.

If that doesn't make sense, may this will. The reciever and the moome seems to be slightly out of sync in the handshacking process on the reciever and the input switching/searching on the moome. By briefly interupting this process by unpluginhg the cable from the reciver to the moome it sometimes gets this back in sync and it locks.

Is there a way to disable the auto input searching on the moome? In my current configuration I will only ever use 1 input and don't need this feature. If I could disable this it may help me troubleshoot my issues further.

Am I on to something here or am I going down the wrong path? ANY feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers,
Alan

aenglish · Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject:

Round 3 of testing.

I tried hooking up my WDTV to the second input on the moome thus enabling manual switching of the inputs. I had the Pace box through the reciever to the first input on the moome. This didn't fix anything as when the reciever is trying to lock to the pace box the moome automatically switches to the second input (WDTV) as it momentarily looses the input from the reciever as it tries to lock.

I read someone else was also having similar trouble and but a cheap HDMI switch on the output of the reciever to resolve it. I had such a switch kicking around and put it in the chain between the reciever and the moome. This has improved things to the point that I have a 25% chance the reciever will lock on the PS3 or Pace input, compared to a 0% chance without the HDMI switch (only locks by unpluging the reciever output and plugging it back in quickly as stated in my testing from yesterday).

I still think if I would have better success if I could disable the auto switching on the moome, but I'm not sure if this would be possible.

This should not be that difficult to get going. Since all my input devices seem to work plugged directly into the moome I just don't see what is different when I insert the reciever between them? I would really appreciate a fresh perspective and maybe something else to try.

Thanks,
Alan

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CIR Engineering · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:38 pm Post subject:

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This is a nice product because it is a 4-HDMI in and 2-HDMI out. It allows you to separate your audio from your video. It really is best to avoid running the video through an audio receiver. It may solve your problems and provide better video. Also they have a good return policy if it does not work.

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