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dvh99



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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:54 pm    Post subject: strange remote marquee Reply with quote


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when i stop using my marquee i always unplug it.
now when i plug it back in it always takes a minute or so before the pj responds to the remote (not wired).
is this normal or can this lead to bigger problems.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Stupid question, but are you sure the batteries are OK in the remote? I know the pj does funky things when the batteries get low. Does it do the same thing when you have it in wired mode?
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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no it isnt the batteries i always had this odd behaviour of the remote even with new batteries.
i use regular 1 1/2 volt batteries (duracell) and they are quality batteries.
in wired mote the pj fires up instantly as soon as i press the power button.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello

IR commands are detected in the IR sensor and acted upon by the control board. If the orange ready light is on then the projector should react. Next time you plug in, see if the remote is causing the diagnostic "C" led to flash on the rear panel.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

will do that tim thanks, its flashing now but thats no surprise of course.
now i at least know what that c stands for on the clm.

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PostLink    Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: strange remote marquee Reply with quote

dvh99 wrote:
when i stop using my marquee i always unplug it.
now when i plug it back in it always takes a minute or so before the pj responds to the remote (not wired).
replace the Solid Tantalum on the CLM next to U16 IOP. I like to use a 22Uf 25V rated cap there
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dvh99



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PostLink    Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i looked at the c led on the clm and indeed it doesnt flash.
after 1 minute it responds to the remote, flashes and the pj turns on.
i have the part that dragan mentioned in order and as soon as i have replaced that cap i will report back.
c145 on the clm.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the strangest thing happened.
i replaced 2 caps on the lvps rated 470uf 35v with same value but 50v near the output.
i plugged in the pj and the remote responded immediately.
i still will replace c145 on the clm but i didnt expect a cap change on the lvps could cause this or perhaps its just a fluke.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok just plugged in the pj and it responds immediately when the power button on the remote is pressed.
can someone enlighten me how 2 cap changes on the lvps cause the remote to work properly.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dvh99 wrote:
ok just plugged in the pj and it responds immediately when the power button on the remote is pressed.
can someone enlighten me how 2 cap changes on the lvps cause the remote to work properly.



The lvps provides Standby Power to the control board, the wired keypad if installed, and the IR sensor, so the projector in the Off condition can listen for a Power On command. You must have changed something that affected standby power.


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PostLink    Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

makes perfect sense.
makes me wonder how many more caps are dying on the lvps though.

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PostLink    Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe those caps are in the flyback section of the LVPS. Mike and others will tell you that updating the flyback section will do wonders for the pj. The other caps not so much, as the inductors handle any noise. The caps in the flyback section however, are critical for noise reduction and reliable voltage.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

now the remote works as it is supposed to, and the pj runs cooler as an added bonus.
have you replaced them too paul?
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PostLink    Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have. I also added a 100uH inductor to the -85V line as well. Others up the value on some of the caps, but I left the values alone and just upped the voltage rating and quality in the flyback section.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does that include those wima caps too?
if so i will put them in.



the 2 caps behind the wimas are the ones i replaced.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but not all the wimas are in the flyback converter section. I only replaced C68 and C62.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul do they need to be 100v or will 50 or 63v be sufficient.
the 100v is only us stock at farnell and i dont have another source.

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PostLink    Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dennis, I would not go lower than 100V. I got all of my stuff from mouser.com. For the WIMAs, part number 505-MKS4.47/100/10P.
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PostLink    Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks paul i will look into that.

i have found a source for those wimas 0.62 a piece and 100v rated.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i thought i got rid of this problem but it is still there.
i replaced the tant dragan mentioned and it didnt help out.
the time it takes for the remote to respond depends on how long the pj has been unplugged.
ie: the pj is unplugged 12 or more hrs it takes approx 1 minute, when the pj has been unplugged <6hrs the pj responds at once.
if no one knows how to get rid of this problem its just bad luck cause the pj works flawless.

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