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Almost ready to install my Chief electric mount.
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daves123




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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Almost ready to install my Chief electric mount. Reply with quote


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Ok, I'm almost ready to install my Chief electric lift, and have a couple of questions. My theater room in the basement has wood I beams in the ceiling, and the spot where I need to install has a heating duct running through it. My questions relate to support blocks between the I beams, and the actual installation of the lift through the bottom support block.

I drew a crude diagram of how I think it should go, but would love some input.





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daves123




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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do I drill a hole in the bottom support block and feed the threaded mounting tube through the hole, and then put the nut on. Here is a pic of the lift with the round tube on top for mounting.



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Ben851




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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry this is just out of curiosity - were you the guy that beat me on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160354204224&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems to be a well thought and sturdy way to do it to me. And yes drill your hole in the wood just as you have shown in your pic.

Is the bottom part where your lift is bolting through a couple of 2x4's on end? More than strong enough for 250 Lbs. Thumbs Up

If so make sure to glue them to each other and use screws also staying clear of the part you are going to drill into.

Just to save your drill bit or hole saw a lot of wear.

One more thing if that "nub" that has to go through is larger than 1" use at least 3 2x4's. sandwiched together.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to use 2x8's to build the U. I never thought about using glue as well as screws. Will do, thanks.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That works too.

Now lets see what happens when all the over building engineers chime in.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben851 wrote:
Sorry this is just out of curiosity - were you the guy that beat me on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160354204224&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT



Nope. I saw that one as well, and did bid on it. I was thinking of using it with my bedroom pj, but it went for more than I was willing to pay. I actually found one locally in Toronto on kijiji, and got a great deal on it.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks pretty good to me. (I'm an over-engineering type) Can you use the four bolts that hold that plate with the nub on? Remove the plate and just run bolts thru the bottom of the U into the mount? Might gain some headroom that way.


Ben851 wrote:
Sorry this is just out of curiosity - were you the guy that beat me on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160354204224&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


I was the $99.98 starting bid on that. Wink
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've posted these before...Not the greatest shot...But looks close to your idea. My Chief lift didn't come with the mounting hardware like yours...It was just like the one on Ebay. I used uni-strut... This way I could move the setup to maximize tube face usage.



The projector is recessed into a soffit.



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daves123




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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The four bolts that hold the plate actually come out of the lift, so that doesn't seem to be an option. The university that owned the lift fabricated a steel plate to go under the large nut, and on top of the support block.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daves123 wrote:
Do I drill a hole in the bottom support block and feed the threaded mounting tube through the hole, and then put the nut on. Here is a pic of the lift with the round tube on top for mounting.



I guess that's not an actual picture of your lift as you snagged that picture from my forsale ad from Oct 2007 Smile

http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7104&highlight=

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daves123




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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, not my actual lift, just a pic I found on this site. Hope you don't mind Smile Mine is on the floor in my very dark theater room. I was trying to show a good pic of the mounting plate with the tube sticking out of it, and your was the best I found on google images.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkruger wrote:
Looks pretty good to me. (I'm an over-engineering type) Can you use the four bolts that hold that plate with the nub on? Remove the plate and just run bolts thru the bottom of the U into the mount? Might gain some headroom that way.


Ben851 wrote:
Sorry this is just out of curiosity - were you the guy that beat me on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160354204224&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


I was the $99.98 starting bid on that. Wink


Over-engineering type is one thing. {overly instructive, tearing someone down ,or redoing the whole process because my way is better type] is who I was eluding to. And that ain't your style.

I have never found you to be that way jkruger. Thumbs Up

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daves123




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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, what kind of beams do you have in your ceiling? Mine are engineered I beams, they have a 2x2 on the bottom and the top and particle board in the middle.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha! You should see my PJ mount. It could hold up a small car. Four 1/2" high tensile threaded rods and unistrut over the 8 x 18" beam in the top of the garage loft. Way overkill. I call it earthquake proofing.
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daves123 wrote:
Mike, what kind of beams do you have in your ceiling? Mine are engineered I beams, they have a 2x2 on the bottom and the top and particle board in the middle.


Mine are just plain old 2X10's. Engineered beams could be a challenge. I didn't feel comfortable just lagging in from the bottom. I drilled holes threw the joist then bolted uni-strut "L" brackets to the joist, then bolted the uni-strut to the "L" brackets. I think your beams run the other direction, so this would not really be an option.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just in case you need the manual....

http://downloads.chiefmfg.com/MANUALS-I/EVCM100-I.pdf
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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not the one to tell what you are doing is right or wrong, but please look at page 6 in the upper left hand corner of this document: http://www.ilevel.com/literature/TJ-9001.pdf

Suspended loads need to be through the web of TJI's.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the following thread for that "DEjaView feeling"


http://curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15098&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=engineered+beams&&start=0

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tri_joel wrote:
I'm not the one to tell what you are doing is right or wrong, but please look at page 6 in the upper left hand corner of this document: http://www.ilevel.com/literature/TJ-9001.pdf

Suspended loads need to be through the web of TJI's.



The part about using engineered lumber as backing, because regular cut wood can shrink. Can I just go to home depot and ask for engineered lumber? Can it be cut? Sorry, I don't know a lot about wood.
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