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stefuel
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| 416ray4538 wrote: | | He's asking $4000.00. Seems like a lot but what do I know. I'm assuming I need some other gear to go with it to get a picture on my screen depending on the source. Is that true? |
Way to much $$$. Pass without a second thought
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jkruger
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FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS?? and no training wheels?? WTF??
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416ray4538
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| stefuel wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | its a 4600 |
Yep it's a run-o-the mill 4600 with straight HD-10 lenses. If it's in good shape and the price it right, snag it, dump the lenses for better ones and your good to go for home theater. Do make sure you get the wired remote with it. Or you're S.O.L.
I know someone with a couple of them (actually HD versions) but he won't admit to it in public  |
Any thoughts on what the "right price" might be. If I buy one from just anywhere shipping could change the price from "right" to "scary" Finding one where I could load it into my truck has to help. What would you consider "better lenses" and do you have any suggestions on where I could find these and how much I could expect to spend?
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macgyver655
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| 416ray4538 wrote: | | stefuel wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | its a 4600 |
Yep it's a run-o-the mill 4600 with straight HD-10 lenses. If it's in good shape and the price it right, snag it, dump the lenses for better ones and your good to go for home theater. Do make sure you get the wired remote with it. Or you're S.O.L.
I know someone with a couple of them (actually HD versions) but he won't admit to it in public |
Any thoughts on what the "right price" might be. If I buy one from just anywhere shipping could change the price from "right" to "scary" Finding one where I could load it into my truck has to help. What would you consider "better lenses" and do you have any suggestions on where I could find these and how much I could expect to spend?
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Since you were looking at something in that price range, why dont you talk to Curt about a projector. At least you have the support and knowing you'll get your monies worth. 
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416ray4538
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I agree completely with that. There is also the Marquee 8500 that is supposed to be similar in performance. I also need whatever is needed to take advantage of Blue-ray and I expect that Curt would be able to provide this also. I've seen these for sale for $3000.00 cdn. I would prefer to deal with Curt since he is familiar with these projectors and can offer support. I need to know how much shipping is going to hurt before I decide.
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macgyver655
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I'm sure Curt can put together a price for you with FREE shipping.... 
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416ray4538
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I couldn't resist the adjusted price especially with no shipping. I've got it connected with just 3 wires RBG. This got rid of the message "no input" Still no light. I've been reading the manual but I must be missing something. I thought of putting into test mode to guess at the distance from the screen but it just keeps changing the channel. Anyone set one of these up lately?
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Robert A. Hill
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Ampros can handle many input types, such as RGBS, but not RGB without sync. Get a VGA to 4 bnc or vga to 5 bnc cable to use with your PC for now.
You can always use the internal test patterns to check out the pj, but they are not good for final setup. Press 1,2,or 3 then "Test" to display patterns at various resolutions. Once in test mode, press "Step" to cycle the patterns.
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416ray4538
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The remote display says channel 1. When I press 3 test the display says channel 3. If I press 2 test the display says channel2. I'm missing a keystroke somewhere I hope.
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stefuel
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Allrightie try this. Power it down and back up again. After the projector has booted up (about 10 seconds) press the HELP button. The green tube should show low rez text. If it does not, try pressing the "STAND BY" button.
Do you know what installation the projector came from? Was it from a home theater or a commercial setup.
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Curt Palme
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you are NOT giving it an RGB signal with 3 cables, you're connecting COMPONENT to the RGB input. Page 17 of the FAQ covers that.
A few things:
909 code takes it out of executive mode. 20 code takes it out of keypad lock mode. One of those two should let you do everything.
If not, I have a mint 4600 for $3500 CDN plus shipping.
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416ray4538
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| Curt Palme wrote: | you are NOT giving it an RGB signal with 3 cables, you're connecting COMPONENT to the RGB input. Page 17 of the FAQ covers that.
A few things:
909 code takes it out of executive mode. 20 code takes it out of keypad lock mode. One of those two should let you do everything.
If not, I have a mint 4600 for $3500 CDN plus shipping. |
Cool. The remote responds now. Thanks
4 test gives nothing on the wall however for about 3 seconds the appropriate colour is visible looking into the guns; same result from step
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macgyver655
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Test 4 is for genlock and will only work if you have a valid signal being inputted.
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416ray4538
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | Test 4 is for genlock and will only work if you have a valid signal being inputted. |
It's alive. It works. I get the test patterns. Now to hang it from the ceiling. That part I think I've got. How do I get from my preamp RGB to the 5 wire input for the projector. Next I'll buy a BlueRay player and Curt has suggested a product from his line to go with the projector. That means I need a switcher too??
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stefuel
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| 416ray4538 wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | Test 4 is for genlock and will only work if you have a valid signal being inputted. |
It's alive. It works. I get the test patterns. Now to hang it from the ceiling. That part I think I've got. How do I get from my preamp RGB to the 5 wire input for the projector. Next I'll buy a BlueRay player and Curt has suggested a product from his line to go with the projector. That means I need a switcher too??
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Don't just throw it up on the ceiling. Experiment with it first. Read the installation manual and get used to the projector before you decide on it's final mounting position. Take your time and think it through. The physical mounting must be strong and allow for some movement back and forth from the screen. You can't just pick a spot on the ceiling because it looks good. I've seen to many installations with the attitude of get it up there and deal with it later. It just doesn't work that way.
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416ray4538
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| stefuel wrote: | | 416ray4538 wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | Test 4 is for genlock and will only work if you have a valid signal being inputted. |
It's alive. It works. I get the test patterns. Now to hang it from the ceiling. That part I think I've got. How do I get from my preamp RGB to the 5 wire input for the projector. Next I'll buy a BlueRay player and Curt has suggested a product from his line to go with the projector. That means I need a switcher too??
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Don't just throw it up on the ceiling. Experiment with it first. Read the installation manual and get used to the projector before you decide on it's final mounting position. Take your time and think it through. The physical mounting must be strong and allow for some movement back and forth from the screen. You can't just pick a spot on the ceiling because it looks good. I've seen to many installations with the attitude of get it up there and deal with it later. It just doesn't work that way. |
I was planning to hang it centered to the screen using unistrut which could be done to have some adjustment forth and back. I thought I'd start with it on the floor and fire a test pattern at the end of the room with the screen using 1.4 times the screen width as a starting point. Considering the price of unistrut and the fact that what doesn't get screwed to the ceiling is waste it seems like a good idea to leave room for adjustment. Any thoughts on how much adjustment is likely?
The screen (drywall to be painted) is 5' x 9' . so 13' +/-
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416ray4538
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Ordered a transcoder.. Waiting for the mail man.
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stefuel
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| 416ray4538 wrote: | | stefuel wrote: | | 416ray4538 wrote: | | macgyver655 wrote: | | Test 4 is for genlock and will only work if you have a valid signal being inputted. |
It's alive. It works. I get the test patterns. Now to hang it from the ceiling. That part I think I've got. How do I get from my preamp RGB to the 5 wire input for the projector. Next I'll buy a BlueRay player and Curt has suggested a product from his line to go with the projector. That means I need a switcher too??
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Don't just throw it up on the ceiling. Experiment with it first. Read the installation manual and get used to the projector before you decide on it's final mounting position. Take your time and think it through. The physical mounting must be strong and allow for some movement back and forth from the screen. You can't just pick a spot on the ceiling because it looks good. I've seen to many installations with the attitude of get it up there and deal with it later. It just doesn't work that way. |
I was planning to hang it centered to the screen using unistrut which could be done to have some adjustment forth and back. I thought I'd start with it on the floor and fire a test pattern at the end of the room with the screen using 1.4 times the screen width as a starting point. Considering the price of unistrut and the fact that what doesn't get screwed to the ceiling is waste it seems like a good idea to leave room for adjustment. Any thoughts on how much adjustment is likely?
The screen (drywall to be painted) is 5' x 9' . so 13' +/- |
If you have the required gray matter to figure out how to hang it exactly where the manual suggests. then to satisfy the demands of the masses here, you will only have to provide forward adjustability of less than a foot.
Did you get the factory mount with the projector? If not, see if the guy you bought it from still has it.
Before you jump into mounting it, some projectors are real critical like the NEC PG's. They need to be squared to the screen within 1/16 of a inch or you can see it on the screen. In any case, the closer you get to optimal, the less trouble you'll run into durring mechanical setup
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416ray4538
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Factory mount is MIA. I saw Curt's picture of a mount and thought I'd go very similar. Cross pieces bolted directly to the PJ mounting holes, Allthread from the crosspieces to the unistrut screwed to the ceiling. Good adjustment ( left/right angle, closer/nearer, left/right tilt), front/back tilt)
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