Mike, I think you should concentrate on getting the core functionality of your Gui right (single-app main movie to flack with forced subs), rather than dilute it down - the other guis are more flexible already.
The only add feature I think it needs is the ability to force a non-forced sub for foreign language films.
(And fix bugs like the default directory question, and I'm not sure moving the subtitles works at all - it doesn't for me, I get no subs, and power management issues (monitor doesn't turn off in eac3to stage, but pc goes into standby during mkvmerge stage.)
I agree with you Mark, those items are the top issues. I now have a couple of foreign language film disks to work with so I think I can nail that. I also have code to turn off the sleep mode while running that seems to work, I just have to implement it into the app. If anyone is interested in the source I can clean it up a bit and post it on CodePlex, that might be a good direction to go with this, I've been putting in 45-55 hours a week at work and to be honest one of the last things I want to do when I get home is more work, because the code in its present form has worked out pretty well, for me at least.
Mike _________________ Doing HD since the last century!
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:22 am Post subject:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Smokyjoe, I would use the HD-DVD/Bluray Stream Extractor for what you want, then mux with mkvmerge yourself. The tools already exist, in easy to use forms.
Thanks for the tip. I'd heard of this before, but never used it. But, it's not for me. I just tried it then, and it looks like you only have 1 option for each stream. I need core and flac (and if possible untouched Hd stream) from the 1 Hd audio stream.
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:40 am Post subject:
smokyjoe wrote:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Smokyjoe, I would use the HD-DVD/Bluray Stream Extractor for what you want, then mux with mkvmerge yourself. The tools already exist, in easy to use forms.
Thanks for the tip. I'd heard of this before, but never used it. But, it's not for me. I just tried it then, and it looks like you only have 1 option for each stream. I need core and flac (and if possible untouched Hd stream) from the 1 Hd audio stream.
My hunt continues. Thanks anyway.
BTW you can use the GUI if you want to remux with MKVMerge GUI. Just select the command line button then 10-20 seconds later a popup will come up that allows you to select what ever track you you want. It builds the command line, that you can edit to your liking then launch eac3to. Then use mkvmerge gui. Its what I do on problem disks.
Mike _________________ Doing HD since the last century!
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:01 am Post subject:
tonight i tried ripping a bluray and it looked like everything ran fine, but when i went to the output folder, nothing was there.
i thought maybe it was because i put spaces in the output folder name, so ran it again with no spaces and still nothing in the out put folder, yet no errors in the GUI or logs.
i stopped the GUI, rebooted (just to be safe) and restarted the GUI as administrator and this time, i opened the output folder to watch as the mkv was created. it created all the files, .sup, vc-1, etc and then at the end, as the cmd line showed "done!" it deleted all the files in the output folder.
is this something i'm doing wrong? the only thing i've changed since my last successful rip is to register and update AnyDVD HD. i'm at a loss on this, any ideas? could it be the disc itself?
GUI and eac3to logs pasted below:
GUI:
Code:
Analyzing .....started at 19:15:47
Analyzing complete...Starting EAC3To.exe
EAC3to complete
Looking for forced subtitles...
No flagged forced subtitles found, looking for other types of forced subtitles...
Likely forced subtitle not found...
MKVMerge Started!...
MKVMerge Done!...
Deleting work files...
Deleting D:\bluray\nlcv\MyMKVFile - 10 English Subtitle.sup
D:\bluray\nlcv\MyMKVFile - 10 English Subtitle.sup deleted.
Deleting D:\bluray\nlcv\MyMKVFile - 7 English Subtitle.sup
D:\bluray\nlcv\MyMKVFile - 7 English Subtitle.sup deleted.
Deleting D:\bluray\nlcv\MyMKVFile - Chapters.txt
D:\bluray\nlcv\MyMKVFile - Chapters.txt deleted.
Deleting D:\bluray\nlcv\MyMKVFile 1080p VC-1.mkv
D:\bluray\nlcv\MyMKVFile 1080p VC-1.mkv deleted.
All work files deleted
Total time 00:22:34Û
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:14 am Post subject:
smokyjoe wrote:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Smokyjoe, I would use the HD-DVD/Bluray Stream Extractor for what you want, then mux with mkvmerge yourself. The tools already exist, in easy to use forms.
Thanks for the tip. I'd heard of this before, but never used it. But, it's not for me. I just tried it then, and it looks like you only have 1 option for each stream. I need core and flac (and if possible untouched Hd stream) from the 1 Hd audio stream.
My hunt continues. Thanks anyway.
Why do you need all those streams?
The first remuxing I did (Bladerunner HD-DVD), I also kept all the audio tracks. Till I realised I only ever used the FLAC one. You'll NEVER need all of them.
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:15 am Post subject:
Correction of prior post:
I agree - for a One Click GUI to MKV, I'd go for:
- Audio to FLAC (or if you have the time in Tools --> Options, the ability to set you Audio Conversion Preferences between FLAC, WAV, and Leave Original)
- Forced Sub convresion
For now, I think this will cover 95% of the requirements for most of us that just want to rip our Disc to the HDD for playback and streaming (the more complicated ones, I'll run each tool manually. The flexibility of the Audio option is going to be good now that FFDSHOW can decode most HD formats and Bitstream them all, with WAV the most compatible (but largest) format of all!
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:19 am Post subject:
Mark_A_W wrote:
smokyjoe wrote:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Smokyjoe, I would use the HD-DVD/Bluray Stream Extractor for what you want, then mux with mkvmerge yourself. The tools already exist, in easy to use forms.
Thanks for the tip. I'd heard of this before, but never used it. But, it's not for me. I just tried it then, and it looks like you only have 1 option for each stream. I need core and flac (and if possible untouched Hd stream) from the 1 Hd audio stream.
My hunt continues. Thanks anyway.
Why do you need all those streams?
The first remuxing I did (Bladerunner HD-DVD), I also kept all the audio tracks. Till I realised I only ever used the FLAC one. You'll NEVER need all of them.
If you are playing back the MKV's on a device (not an HTPC) that doesn't support FLAC you will most definitely need another audio stream.
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:20 am Post subject:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Why do you need all those streams?
I agree on Movies, however Music Video will normally have both a 5.1 and a 2ch sound track and these I keep (but happy to process manually)
I really like the concept of a simple One Click GUI --> MKV, it saves the time and effort for the bulk of discs! Set up your preferences once for how you want stuff transcoded...from then on, stick in a discs and away you go.
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:25 am Post subject:
greg_mitch wrote:
If you are playing back the MKV's on a device (not an HTPC) that doesn't support FLAC you will most definitely need another audio stream.
Then WAV (PCM) may be a better choice as it works with everthing, has no decoding overhead and given your other option is to store two sound tracks this will offset the additional size that WAV takes up.
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:45 am Post subject:
MikeEby wrote:
smokyjoe wrote:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Smokyjoe, I would use the HD-DVD/Bluray Stream Extractor for what you want, then mux with mkvmerge yourself. The tools already exist, in easy to use forms.
Thanks for the tip. I'd heard of this before, but never used it. But, it's not for me. I just tried it then, and it looks like you only have 1 option for each stream. I need core and flac (and if possible untouched Hd stream) from the 1 Hd audio stream.
My hunt continues. Thanks anyway.
BTW you can use the GUI if you want to remux with MKVMerge GUI. Just select the command line button then 10-20 seconds later a popup will come up that allows you to select what ever track you you want. It builds the command line, that you can edit to your liking then launch eac3to. Then use mkvmerge gui. Its what I do on problem disks.
Mike
Mike,
Is there a reason MKV merge has to be disabled when using the command line option. I do my rips without subs as I'll never need them and it takes a while to write the files. It would be nice to be able to rip the video, audio, and chapters without having to use two seperate programs. Any possibility you could change this?
I have to say it is an impressive little app, works great on every disc I've tried so far! _________________ -peace
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:48 am Post subject:
chadd wrote:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Change the default setting!
ok, thanks, i'll uncheck the "delete work files" setting and try again.
rip finished, and left me with 5 files in my output folder:
mymkvfile 1080p vc-1.mkv
mymkvfile - 7 english subtitle.sup
mymkvfile - 10 english subtitle.sup
mymkvfile - chapters.txt
mymkvfile - log.txt
i'm not quite sure what i'm supposed to do now... any tips?
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:51 am Post subject:
Zebu Fellenz wrote:
Mike,
Is there a reason MKV merge has to be disabled when using the command line option.
I have to say it is an impressive little app, works great on every disc I've tried so far!
Thanks Erik!
Yes...It would be a ton of more code to make it work, because there are far more options when remuxing.
The reason it rips the subtitles is for forced subtitles... When people speak in another than english. You don't know if a movie has them until you demux them.
Mike _________________ Doing HD since the last century!
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:54 am Post subject:
chadd wrote:
chadd wrote:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Change the default setting!
ok, thanks, i'll uncheck the "delete work files" setting and try again.
rip finished, and left me with 5 files in my output folder:
mymkvfile 1080p vc-1.mkv
mymkvfile - 7 english subtitle.sup
mymkvfile - 10 english subtitle.sup
mymkvfile - chapters.txt
mymkvfile - log.txt
i'm not quite sure what i'm supposed to do now... any tips?
Use MKV merge gui to remux them. It looks like you don't have any audio tracks though.
What movie is this? Does it have an english audio track?
Mike _________________ Doing HD since the last century!
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:58 am Post subject:
MikeEby wrote:
chadd wrote:
chadd wrote:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Change the default setting!
ok, thanks, i'll uncheck the "delete work files" setting and try again.
rip finished, and left me with 5 files in my output folder:
mymkvfile 1080p vc-1.mkv
mymkvfile - 7 english subtitle.sup
mymkvfile - 10 english subtitle.sup
mymkvfile - chapters.txt
mymkvfile - log.txt
i'm not quite sure what i'm supposed to do now... any tips?
Use MKV merge gui to remux them. It looks like you don't have any audio tracks though.
What movie is this? Does it have an english audio track?
looking at the logs it looks like it's not extracting an audio track.
why would i not have any audio tracks? is that a disc specific problem? _________________ landchark!
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:09 am Post subject:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Why do you need all those streams?
The first remuxing I did (Bladerunner HD-DVD), I also kept all the audio tracks. Till I realised I only ever used the FLAC one. You'll NEVER need all of them.
I'm currently running XBMC Live, using an optical cable for sound. I've been meaning to move to 6ch analog sound (my receiver doesn't have hdmi inputs), but I haven't yet. So at the moment I'm stuck with legacy audio. When I sort out my linux analog sound issues, I'll most likely only need FLAC sound, but I'd like to keep the TrueHD stream for any other devices I may use. I'm also thinking of getting a stabdalone blu-ray player for another room that will stream mkvs, but only with legacy audio.
If I was only ever going to be playing these files on a PC with flexible playback software, then I'd probably only need FLAC. But I don't want to lock myself out of using stand-alone devices.
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Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:12 am Post subject:
chadd wrote:
MikeEby wrote:
chadd wrote:
chadd wrote:
Mark_A_W wrote:
Change the default setting!
ok, thanks, i'll uncheck the "delete work files" setting and try again.
rip finished, and left me with 5 files in my output folder:
mymkvfile 1080p vc-1.mkv
mymkvfile - 7 english subtitle.sup
mymkvfile - 10 english subtitle.sup
mymkvfile - chapters.txt
mymkvfile - log.txt
i'm not quite sure what i'm supposed to do now... any tips?
Use MKV merge gui to remux them. It looks like you don't have any audio tracks though.
What movie is this? Does it have an english audio track?
looking at the logs it looks like it's not extracting an audio track.
why would i not have any audio tracks? is that a disc specific problem?
Ok I think I see the problem.... The play list you selected is probably a commentary. It does not have a multi-channel audio track. Only 2 channel. After the first analize when you select the playlist make sure you see a multi-channel audio track in the list. If you don't it's a commentary playlist. Could even have PIP crap in the video.
Mike _________________ Doing HD since the last century!
Link Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:19 am Post subject:
MikeEby wrote:
Ok I think I see the problem.... The play list you selected is probably a commentary. It does not have a multi-channel audio track. Only 2 channel. After the first analize when you select the playlist make sure you see a multi-channel audio track in the list. If you don't it's a commentary playlist. Could even have PIP crap in the video.
Mike
after the first analyze, i only get one option in the results list... _________________ landchark!
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