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AnalogRocks
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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Hmm my post about the power supply didn't post earlier.

PC Power and Cooling got back to me. My Supply will be ready next week. Custom length internal power cables (14 -19" vs 20-36") and a gloss black paint job. Oh yeah and 610 watts of continuous power.

Check out these specs:

AC Input
Operating Range: 90-264 VAC
.99 power factor

Frequency: 47-63Hz
Current: 10A
Efficiency: 83%
EMI: FCC-B, CE

DC Output
Output: +5V @ 30A
+12V @ 49A
-12V @ 0.8A
+3.3V @ 24A
+5VSB @ 3A
continuous = 610W
peak = 670W

Regulation: 3% (+3.3V, +5V, +12V)
5% (-12V)
Ripple: 1% (p-p)
Hold Time: 16ms
PG Delay: 300ms

Safety
OV Protection: +3.3V, +5V, +12V
OC Protection: 135% OPP
Agency Approval: UL/ULC/CE/CB/RoHS
Environmental
Temperature: 0 - 40C
Humidity: 20% - 80% RH
Fan Type: 22 - 55 CFM ball-bearing
Noise: 26-38dB(A)

Miscellaneous
Compatibility: EPS12V / NVIDIA SLI certified
M/B Connectors: 24-pin, 8-pin, 4-pin, dual 6-pin Video
See Diagram
Drive Connectors: 15 (6 SATA, 8 Molex, 1 mini)
MTBF: 100,000 hours
Dimensions/Harness: See Diagram
Warranty: 3 Years

Now if I could only get a power supply like that for my Ampro

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why a miniATX?
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WanMan wrote:
Why a miniATX?


I wanted it to be as portable as my Shuttle PC but with a little more space to plug in cards. I plan on using this at friends places to demo projectors or to hook up to friends lan's to game on.

I have a full sized HTPC in my equipment rack now. I'm thinking the next HTPC ( in 18-24 months ) will probably be in a rack mount case. For now however I want my portability.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok moving right along now.

I have both DVD drives in hand but more importantly the chassis is now gloss black!

Woo hoo. It looks nice too.

/end rhyme

I'll post a pic tonight if I don't fall asleep first.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnalogRocks wrote:
AnalogRocks wrote:
Here's how the paint job breaks down:
For the Glossy Black parts on aluminium:
3 coats of self etch primer, 2 coats of midnight black base, and 3 coats of clear.

For the Semi Gloss Black:

A sanding with 400 grit sand paper, 3 coats of high build primer, 2 coats of midnight black, 3 coats of clear with flattening agent added.

For the Lemon/Lime:

A sanding with 400 grit sand paper, 3 coats of high build primer, 3 coats of arctic white base, 2 coats of lemon/lime color, and 3 coats of clear. Let stand for a week and wet sand with 1800 -2500 grit to a mirror finish.

I hope this turns out as well as (most) of the Supra did.


Well aparently doing detail work is expensive. When he saw the chassis he quoted me $500(!) for the job.

So...
The front panel will be lemon/lime and the top, and 2 sides will be semi gloss. I'll have a crack at doing the single component gloss black on the inside chassis myself or try the shop that painted my truck black. It turned out nice.


Yep the same shop did it for me. Black powdercoat while u wait $50.

The other shop that did my Toyota doens't have the other pannels ready yet. That's ok I don't have the power supply yet so nothings getting done.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the powder coated chassis:


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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop playing with the Ampro and get that HTPC going. Smile
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wating for the PC Power guy's to get back to me saying the power supply is ready.

My motherboards are waiting at the computer store for me. I'm almost there.

Now to start painting the room and doing the carpet, no wait I should make sure the Ampro doens't blow up again, no I need to build a screen wait the HTPC's not finished. I have to mount the switchers. Oh gotta get the Christmas tree Shocked

Too many things going on all at once and that's just untill I leave the house. LOL

I'm getting there. The paint should be done tomorow on the outter case pannels. Can't wait to see how that turns out.

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok PC Power guys have gotten back to me. It'll ship next week. Excellent. I picked up the mother boards. Body shop is still slow. They tell me tuesday. I hope so.

Now that I have the Ampro running I want to set this and all the other bits and pieces I have aquired over the last 6 months up all together on my projector cart.

I've decided to find an ULTRA brand fan in black to match the case, the one I had was blue to match the way the factory sent it. I'll use the blue one on the Ampro.

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A blue fan in the Ampro, Now that is class, I hope it runs longer than the power supply Wink
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the replacement, replacement power supply is still running 5 days after I put it in. However there are other issues. See my HELP 4000G thread in the main forum.

Yep the blue fan and whatever other color I can find that's quiet will be perfect for teh Ampro. I was at TigerDirect last week but they only had chrome fans. A little too flashy.

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: Ok Jan 2, 2007 Power supply shows up. Short cables, tight fit. Looks nice. Only thing is I thought it would be glossy black not matte but that's ok. Sniff, sniff. Wink

Tomorow I'll goto the body shop time permitting and check out the pannels.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to the body shop. The owner was out to lunch ( yes literaly ) and I didn't get a chance to inspect them. I'll try again tomorow time permitting.
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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again couldn't catch him in yesterday. I was too bussy to go back. I'll try again Monday.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. I saw the case yesterday. It didn't turn out too badly.

Aparently the front pannel had to be redone. The new paint on top the stock paint caused the stock blue paint to lift right off the plastic. Just like a paint stripper was applied.

Keep this in mind if you are having a case painted. It may be better to have the stock paint stripped so they can start with the base surface.

The top panel got some overspray from the front panel and the side panel got touched while it was wet so those are being repainted today.

They are wet sanding the front panel for me to make it shine and to take the little dust specks out.

Should be ready on Friday.

Time to start the build.

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man! I hope you get this thing done, soon. Going on about 9 months? Full term pregnancy...

What video card did you go with?

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's terrible. Every time I'm about to finish it something come$ up and $teal$ my fun money. That and people never deliver stuff to me on time.

On the brighter side my hard drives are in. 2 Seagate 320GB with 16meg cache. 1 IDE one SATA.

Case comes back firday and 4 GB of name brand matched ram should be in shortly.

Not sure on the video card. I'll make that decision after it's running. It has Geforce 6150 built in. I may just go for a cheapy to begin with.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=1819046&sku=P450-8572

Then I can upgrade to something faster if this won't play the games I want. It probably will though as the video card in this box is a 7800 GS and more than fast enough.

My biggest problem with this HTPC is the essoteric componenets lot's of custom stuff. It's almost like one of my car restorations. Sure you can put cheap parts on and drive it now but I can just never make my self settle for that. I always end up spending way more. Plus I hate buying things twice. In the case of the video card I'll compromise now. I can always use that card as a spare.

I love having spares around.

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I went to pick up the panels today. Surprise they weren't ready. He swears next Monday but with the bad weather coming I'm betting not likely.

Now I'm thinking about which video card I should grab. Time to start a new thread and do some research.

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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I went to pick up the panels today. Surprise the WERE ready. I just forgot to bring the box with me. DOH!
Tomorow.

Still not sure which video card to get. Hmmmm

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got tha pannels They look nice. I'll have to take a picture on the hood of my Toyota. After all it was painted to match ( I am SUCH a geek )

I don't have a camera right now so I'll get the pics up ASAP.

If you ever get something painted glossy. Get it wet sanded. Makes it really shine.

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