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Kal,

I was wondering this because the HCFR probe doesn't have a IR block filter on it which allows the probe to read up into the IR range. So I thought maybe the HCFR SW (considering the HCFR SW was originally developed for the HCFR probe) might want to read the primaries at 100% to get readings as to where the primaries register on the probe and then apply that to the greyscale readings.

[kal]

I really doubt it Walter, especially as when you start from scratch with HCFR and tell it to do greyscale, primary, and secondary readings, it does them in that order (greyscale first).

You can also just do greyscale, and it'll give you numbers back. And then do primaries and/or secondaries later. You greyscale readings won't change after you've done the primary/secondary readings. Try it.

Kal

[kal]

I really doubt it Walter, especially as when you start from scratch with HCFR and tell it to do greyscale, primary, and secondary readings, it does them in that order (greyscale first).

You can also just do greyscale, and it'll give you numbers back. And then do primaries and/or secondaries later. You greyscale readings won't change after you've done the primary/secondary readings. Try it.

Kal

[WTS]

I never bothered to do primaries, I didn't see any reason to, not much you can do to change them so I figured why bother.

[kal]

Exactly right Walter. It's more of a curiosity thing: I want to know how close I am. It only takes about 20 seconds to do too.

Kal

[kal]

Exactly right Walter. It's more of a curiosity thing: I want to know how close I am. It only takes about 20 seconds to do too.

Kal

[dropzone7]

Well, it looks like I will be needing to do a full setup on my XG after a system board swap. Bummer. I just followed the Amazon links from the "guide for dummies" thread and ordered the Spyder and DVE disc. I can't wait to play around with that now that my projector is working again!

[kal]

[kal]

[Nashou66]

Kal, not sure if you wanted me to do this but i have put a couple plugs in for your guide over on the A site and got a few bites, one just purchased the spyder from it and I got PM there from another person who did the same. they didn't know about this site either so maybe we'll get more members !! I have the Eye one display2 but thinking for 70 bucks i might get the spyder as well and do a comparison, its only 70 bucks

EDIT: JUST ORDERED THE SPYDER TOO !

Athanasios

[kal]

By all means Athanasios, promote it as much as you want at AVS. Thanks! They typically don't like links to other forums so try and always post it as a clickable link so the mods don't catch on as easily, like this:

[kal]

By all means Athanasios, promote it as much as you want at AVS. Thanks! They typically don't like links to other forums so try and always post it as a clickable link so the mods don't catch on as easily, like this:

[Nashou66]

Yepp thats how i did it ! see here:"
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13755077#post13755077

Athanasios

[AFryia]

Kal,

With HFCR and a HTPC I've found it useful and very quick to run all the measures closed loop using the HFCR internal patterns. A test disk is not required in this case.

You push the button once and sit back and watch. No need to wait for a prompt to change to a different IRE or primary.

It's really slick

[kal]

[kal]

[Gino]

[kal]

No, a downloadable/printable PDF will not be made available for the following reasons:

(a) I'm still tweaking it every day. This'll likely go on for months. I don't want to have to update two places every time I make a change.
(b) We pay for our site hardware partially through ads and people clicking and ordering through the Amazon links in the guide (Blu-ray discs, Spyder2 sensor, etc). A PDF version would reduce those clicks.
(c) I don't want this guide to be hosted elsewhere which would likely happen if a PDF version is created and released. Feel free to link to the guide however as many time as anyone wants. If fact, linking is a good thing. Do it often!
(d) a printable version is already available through the "Printer Friendly" icon at the top of the thread. Yes, I'm aware that this feature is only available to [pay] forum members. If someone's too cheap to sign up (not Gino of course ), take 10 seconds to cut and paste the thread into Word or something and print it.

Kal

[kal]

No, a downloadable/printable PDF will not be made available for the following reasons:

(a) I'm still tweaking it every day. This'll likely go on for months. I don't want to have to update two places every time I make a change.
(b) We pay for our site hardware partially through ads and people clicking and ordering through the Amazon links in the guide (Blu-ray discs, Spyder2 sensor, etc). A PDF version would reduce those clicks.
(c) I don't want this guide to be hosted elsewhere which would likely happen if a PDF version is created and released. Feel free to link to the guide however as many time as anyone wants. If fact, linking is a good thing. Do it often!
(d) a printable version is already available through the "Printer Friendly" icon at the top of the thread. Yes, I'm aware that this feature is only available to [pay] forum members. If someone's too cheap to sign up (not Gino of course ), take 10 seconds to cut and paste the thread into Word or something and print it.

Kal

[1031]

Does anyone know how that "cal file" can be create, I build that Hcfr diy probe. But as far i understand that probe works different that those other probes.
Here is something, but French...is something that i cant read. Or read ,yes:But understand ,no
http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29808049
Or can i use that one with my marquee (with hd-145 lenses)

http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29879209

[tommo2]

[tommo2]

heres a handy tanslator:

http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/

[Gino]

[delphiplasma]

Hi Karl,

I'm a first to this form.

I've read through the 'Greyscale dummies guide' and must say it is excellent!!

Some people on this forum, I've noticed, have asked for more details or explanations, within the document. But as this is written as a dummies guide it is great for the initial set-up. Most of the details can then be gotten from experiment and experience of use.

I did use the full screen for the 'ire' readings (Only because I didn't have 10% window 'ire') and was shocked by the results! but I have since managed to get the 10% windows and the results are much nearer the mark! . I am taking readings for a Plasma display.

The only thing I can think of, which needs some clarification, is the sensor types used.

I use the 'Eye One' sensor. The set-up sensor configuration is very much different from the 'Spyder'. I assume that when I set-up the 'Eye-One' that I do select 'Plasma' rather than the 'LCD' that the 'Spyder' prompts for? Also, there is no real settings, as far as I can see, to increase the length of time the probe takes to read at lower 'ire'. Although, the default seems to increase the reading times at lower 'ire' levels.

Basically, just really need to know that the sensor is set up for the maximum reading accuracy.

Just one other question, the CIE chart, the primary and secondary colours, are they actually plotted on the chart, when the greyscale measurements are taken? As apart from the 'Red' my co-ordinates are looking too accurate to believe!

The rest of the document is faultless.

You should get together with the HCFR team.

[Nashou66]

[kal]

[kal]