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Zebu Fellenz



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PostLink    Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: AR Control for HD-DVD and Blu-ray? Reply with quote


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Right now I'm running 1920x800p to my G70. this works fine for DVD and any other video type that can be opened with the KMplayer or zoomplayer or VLC.

Now I have the LG combo drive in my HTPC for HD-DVD and Blu-ray playback, to my knowledge there is no (simple) way to playback these movies in any of the players that have good aspect ratio control. I have used PDVD ultra and TMT in conjunction with YXY to playback with the the correct AR cropping but I'm disappointed with the image quality after YXY does the scaling.

I haven't yet tried Nero but I'm doubtful that it has anything to help me.

Any suggestions other than switching back to a 1.78:1 screen (I really don't want to)
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of your players will out put the HD material to 800p like you are doing with your SD dvd's? I use my lumagen scaler to that setting 800p.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You rang?? Ooops never mind Smile

What happens if you tell your software to output full screen-vertically stretched- ( is there an option in PDVD for that? I'll have to look )
WIll it stretch it vertically? Can't you then compress your raster and use a different memory block?

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PostLink    Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still have to check on this. Did you ever get it working Zebu?
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PostLink    Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never found a good solution, right now though Curt has some of my G70 boards for repair so I have some free time to decide what to do. Changing my screen to a 1.78:1 AR would fix my problem but would make my blue wear more pronounced when watching 1.78:1 movies and would take away the CIH "cool factor"

I also learned how to rip the HD-DVD's to my hard drive as MKV files, this takes about an hour per disc and leaves me with 10-20gb. movie files that work fine in J river media center, and K-media player. This may be the way I end up going unless some new software appears.
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PostLink    Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the menu's for PDVD man, there's not much there. I've had the ATi MMC software on my SD HTPC for a few years and although ATi's software is made by sir-crash-alot, it has per disk aspect ratio control with stored memory. So if you pop the disk in 6 month's down the road it remember's you wanted the video stretched to "full screen". That's how I ran my Sony 1252.
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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to get off my butt and write something. You guys do know about YXY don't you? It's old and a little primitive but it does work.

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Zebu Fellenz



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PostLink    Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of and have used YXY, for me it seems clunky and at times it refused to work at all. I've found for the way I watch movies it is easier to spend an hour (while reading the forum) to rip the movie to *.MKV and then play it with whatever player I want to.
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zebu Fellenz wrote:
I know of and have used YXY, for me it seems clunky and at times it refused to work at all. I've found for the way I watch movies it is easier to spend an hour (while reading the forum) to rip the movie to *.MKV and then play it with whatever player I want to.


I havn't had much success ripping to MKV. Can you provide details on how to do that?

Chris.
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Zebu Fellenz



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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris,

I followed a guide over on AVS, I'll see if I can find the link. Basically I used EAC3TO to rip the movie files and re-encode the audio to FLAC. Then I use MKV-Muxer to join the EVO video files and the audio into an MKV file.

You have to do it a few times to get the hang of it and some discs will cause unexpected problems but for the most part this method works OK.
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Zebu Fellenz



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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't find the thread on AVS right now but if you're looking for a step by step guide the afterdawn or doom9 forums would be good places to look.

Good Luck
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Zebu Fellenz



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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found the thread on AVS

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1033822 Thumbs Up
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PostLink    Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I check it out.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still not having much luck. Everything appears to go fine through the whole process but when I try to play back the final mkv file I don't get any audio?

FYI, I was using Bewolf on HDDVD as a test.

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Zebu Fellenz



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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What software are you using to playback. Might also want to try another title and see if that makes a difference. What settings are you using in EAC3TO?

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried playback with MPUI, MPC, WMP11, all with the same result. The video is fine but no audio.

As for the settings in EAC3TO, I am following the directions from the AVS thread you posted

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1033822

I'll try another disk.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried another disk and that disk worked fine.

Here are the log files that EAC3TO produced for both disks. The Bewolf disk has "E-AC3" audio, while the Planet Earth Disk only has AC3. Do you think that would be causing my problems?


Bewolf
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eac3to v2.46
command line: eac3to.exe "\\CHRIS-1\Movies 2\Bewolf\HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_01.EVO" "d:\test\bewolf.mkv" -stripPulldown
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EVO, 2 video tracks, 3 audio tracks, 6 subtitle tracks, 0:57:21
1: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
2: h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (15:11) with pulldown flags, 1618ms
3: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -92ms
4: E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 768kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -92ms
5: E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 768kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -92ms
6: Subtitle, English
7: Subtitle, English
8: Subtitle, French
9: Subtitle, Spanish
10: Subtitle, French
11: Subtitle, Spanish
[v01] Extracting video track number 1...
[a05] Extracting audio track number 5...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[v01] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Removing dialog normalization...
[a03] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a04] Removing dialog normalization...
[a04] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a05] Removing dialog normalization...
[a05] Applying (E-)AC3 delay...
[a03] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 3 - E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 1536kbps, 48khz.eac3"...
[a05] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 5 - E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz.eac3"...
[a04] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 4 - E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 768kbps, 48khz.eac3"...
[s11] Extracting subtitle track number 11...
[s09] Extracting subtitle track number 9...
[s10] Extracting subtitle track number 10...
[s08] Extracting subtitle track number 8...
[s07] Extracting subtitle track number 7...
[s06] Extracting subtitle track number 6...
[s07] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 4 - Subtitle, English.sup"...
[s08] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 5 - Subtitle, French.sup"...
[s06] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 3 - Subtitle, English.sup"...
[s09] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 6 - Subtitle, Spanish.sup"...
[s10] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 7 - Subtitle, French.sup"...
[s11] Creating file "d:\test\bewolf - 8 - Subtitle, Spanish.sup"...
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 1 contains 82504 frames.
Video track 2 contains 103039 frames.
eac3to processing took 28 minutes, 14 seconds.
Done.




Planet Earth
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eac3to v2.46
command line: eac3to.exe "D:\Planet Earth\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB001.EVO" "d:\test\PlanetEarth1.mkv" -stripPulldown
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVO, 1 video track, 1 audio track, 3 subtitle tracks, 0:51:10
"Episode1"
1: Chapters, 5 chapters without names
2: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
3: AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 448kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
4: Subtitle, English
5: Subtitle, French
6: Subtitle, Spanish
Creating file "d:\test\PlanetEarth1 - Chapters.txt"...
[v02] Extracting video track number 2...
[v02] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a03] Extracting audio track number 3...
[a03] Removing dialog normalization...
[s06] Extracting subtitle track number 6...
[s05] Extracting subtitle track number 5...
[a03] Creating file "d:\test\PlanetEarth1 - 3 - AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz.ac3"...
[s04] Extracting subtitle track number 4...
[s05] Creating file "d:\test\PlanetEarth1 - 4 - Subtitle, French.sup"...
[s04] Creating file "d:\test\PlanetEarth1 - 3 - Subtitle, English.sup"...
[s06] Creating file "d:\test\PlanetEarth1 - 5 - Subtitle, Spanish.sup"...
Added fps value to MKV header.
Video track 2 contains 73608 frames.
eac3to processing took 8 minutes, 59 seconds.
Done.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The commands I use are:

eac3to.exe feature_1.evo+feature_2.evo 2: video.mkv 5: audio.flac 1: chapters.txt

Where 2 is the number of the main video stream (nearly always 2) and 5 is the number of the audio stream (could be any number), and 1: is the chapters.

You run eac3to.exe feature_1.evo+feature_2.evo without destination files first to get the track listing.


Then mux with mkvmerge (part of mkvtoolnix), using the chapters file (in the global tab).

I haven't had success with subtitles yet (they mux in but I can't see them on playback).

You need Sonic Cineplayer decoders 4:3, which you'll have to google to acquire. You don't need Nero, libav works fine.

There is no need to demux all streams, or strip pulldown. If you convert the desired audio to FLAC you will have very few playback troubles, just install Madflac or use ffdshow. FLAC is easy to decode and as it is lossless you lose nothing.
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