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Link Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:56 am Post subject: OLD laptop gaming |
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I've recently stumbled uppon 3 old laptops. One has no power supply, it's a 386, one is locked with a password. It's an IBM 350CType 2620. I think it may be a Pentium one. Not sure untill I get it unlocked.
Other one is a Toshiba 2520 CDS 4.3 works OK but no hard drive ( I'll get around to that soon) and the screen is dark.
For now I'm booting FreeDOS from CD ROM and then swapping to a different CD to play a game.
I have a copy of William shatner'sTEK WAR here. Hope I can get that going shortly.
Anyone have old 286, 386, 486. P1, P2 laptops or desktops laying around?
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Link Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Got the screen working on the Toshiba. TEKWAR plays smoothly on FreeDOS.
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Link Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:44 am Post subject: |
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IBM 360C
1994
486SX
4 megs ram
340MB HDD with a hard drive lock DOH!
Took the hard drive out and tried a USB to IDE adaptor. No luck. I think I need a mini jumper to set master on the hard drive.
BTW: This thing sucked me into comuter time BAD. It's been along time since I looked up and it was 7am. THAT'S why my eyes hurt
This really took me back to 20 years ago when working on IBM PS/2 surplus systems. PITA the way they do anything.
Of courseIBM did charge $17 000 for a 486 back then (1990) so they had to be a little overbuilt.
To be continued
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Toshiba Satellite 2520 CDS
AMD K6-2 300Mhz, 64kb L1, 512kb L2
32MB PC100, max 92MB
4.03gb 4300 hdd (dead)
24x CDROM
1.44 floppy (SWEET!)
13" STN LCD 800x600
S2 Virge 3D 2MB 64bit video on PCI bus
16 bit Yamaha sound system, with mic, headphone AND line input jacks!
V.90 56K flex modem
6.6lbs
Win98 or Win95
I've ordered a CF to 44 pin IDE adaptor for this and a 4GB CF card. This is going to be fun.
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Link Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Got some parts in!! Industrial CF cards, CF to 44 pin IDE adaptors.
For now I'm playing GTA1 on DOSbox. Much newer Core 2 laptop though. I'll be back at the old laptops in a week or so.
IN the mean time what's your favorite DOS game?
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=480657#480657
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Link Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:34 am Post subject: |
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AnalogRocks wrote: | Toshiba Satellite 2520 CDS
AMD K6-2 300Mhz, 64kb L1, 512kb L2
32MB PC100, max 92MB
4.03gb 4300 hdd (dead)
24x CDROM
1.44 floppy (SWEET!)
13" STN LCD 800x600
S2 Virge 3D 2MB 64bit video on PCI bus
16 bit Yamaha sound system, with mic, headphone AND line input jacks!
V.90 56K flex modem
6.6lbs
Win98 or Win95
I've ordered a CF to 44 pin IDE adaptor for this and an 8GB CF card. This is going to be fun. |
It's here! This one holds two CF cards. So far the computer won't see the 2nd CF card under FreeDOS. Could be the laptop BIOS won't see a seond drive. They didn't have a single CF card adptor that had the screw mounts in the right place so I bought this on. So ar so good. FreeDOS sees all 8gb of the card. Boots damned fast too.
Now to install some games!
FYI: if you want to do this you'll need INDUSTRIAL CF cards. They are the bootable ones.
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Link Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Just installed A10 Tank Killer.
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Link Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:48 am Post subject: |
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AnalogRocks wrote: | Just installed A10 Tank Killer. |
Wish I knew how to find the check point
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Link Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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AnalogRocks wrote: | IBM 360C
1994
486SX
4 megs ram
340MB HDD with a hard drive lock DOH!
Took the hard drive out and tried a USB to IDE adaptor. No luck. I think I need a mini jumper to set master on the hard drive.
BTW: This thing sucked me into comuter time BAD. It's been along time since I looked up and it was 7am. THAT'S why my eyes hurt
This really took me back to 20 years ago when working on IBM PS/2 surplus systems. PITA the way they do anything.
Of courseIBM did charge $17 000 for a 486 back then (1990) so they had to be a little overbuilt.
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Picked up a USB floppy drive, downloaded a DOS 6.22 boot disk and wrote it using Win7 on my 2015 netbook. I've remove the hard drive because it's locked. Got it boothing off said floppy. Now I'm trying to get the external backpack parallel CD ROM drive working to load some games.
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Link Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 2:55 am Post subject: |
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AnalogRocks wrote: | AnalogRocks wrote: | IBM 360C
1994
486SX
4 megs ram
340MB HDD with a hard drive lock DOH!
Took the hard drive out and tried a USB to IDE adaptor. No luck. I think I need a mini jumper to set master on the hard drive.
BTW: This thing sucked me into comuter time BAD. It's been along time since I looked up and it was 7am. THAT'S why my eyes hurt
This really took me back to 20 years ago when working on IBM PS/2 surplus systems. PITA the way they do anything.
Of courseIBM did charge $17 000 for a 486 back then (1990) so they had to be a little overbuilt.
To be continued |
Picked up a USB floppy drive, downloaded a DOS 6.22 boot disk and wrote it using Win7 on my 2015 netbook. I've remove the hard drive because it's locked. Got it boothing off said floppy. Now I'm trying to get the external backpack parallel CD ROM drive working to load some games. |
The setup program for the Backpack CD-ROM drive will install to a DOS floppy boot disk!! Awesome. Swappin' floppies on a Saturday night!
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Link Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm no backpack CD found. Strange. There might be something in the syntax of the config.sys or autoexec.bat files.
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Link Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Woo Hoo my Mini CF to 44 pin adaptors arrived today. Now to try a 512mb CF card in the 486sx IBM.
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AnalogRocks wrote: | Woo Hoo my Mini CF to 44 pin adaptors arrived today. Now to try a 512mb CF card in the 486sx IBM. |
Errors: HDD
DEV 017
ERR 91
FRU 6010
REBOOT ERROR: 00301
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Link Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Got busy doing stuff. However, I did stumble uppon a 16mb PCMCIA memory card for the IBM and I found a 64MB 144 60ns EDO DIM for the Toshiba.
Also scored an external USB 2.0 DVD ROM drive (not much good on the 486) and a PCMCIA SCSI card with cable that may allow me to get my 8x Panasonic CD-ROM drive working here with the 486.
Tech head fun!!
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AnalogRocks wrote: | Got busy doing stuff. However, I did stumble uppon a 16mb PCMCIA memory card for the IBM and I found a 64MB 144 60ns EDO DIM for the Toshiba.
Also scored an external USB 2.0 DVD ROM drive (not much good on the 486) and a PCMCIA SCSI card with cable that may allow me to get my 8x Panasonic CD-ROM drive working here with the 486.
Tech head fun!! |
I found out the PCMCIA standard for RAM cards is different than the normal one for devices that slide in the port on the side of the laptop. That card didn't fit and the ones that do are cost prohibitive. I'll stumble on one sometime.
In the mean time I resotred my newer 2015 Samsung laptop and played Scorched Earth in HD at 1366x768 on DOS box. So yed you can run emulators but original hardware just feels - - 'right'
NERV wrote: | I feel bad that I threw or didn't care about my old devices. It should be an amazing feeling to run some old games which you used to play, on the original devices. |
Many people are like you. Just toss it when they are done. I did a poll with my friends and asked them to list all the PC's they have owned since the 90's. Apparently most of them just used them and didn't care what they were especially when the new stuff came out.
Almost none of them held on to their old hardware.
I have most of my PC's starting with my 386 - 25 through the AMD XP3200's I built in 2004-2005. Then the accursed Socket 939 builds that are all dead due to the capacitor plague. Seriously I've had 6 socket 939 boards and all are ded due to capacitors.
I find it's harder to collect the stuff from 2003 and up. It just won't work like the old stuff.
Maybe that's why I collect old tank built laptops too.
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I use computers like I use cars. I've been driving a great car (my Saab) for almost 19 years. My computers don't last that long, but in the last 20 years I think I've only had 3 laptops. Unfortunately the latest laptop is not holding up well, and I may have to replace it after only 4-5 years.
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Techniquest wrote: | Ohhh man, I also had a Toshiba 2520 CDS 4.3. It was one of the most amazing laptops that I have ever had actually! Taking into consideration the price per quality ratio for it, I guess it was the best possible gaming laptop back in the day! |
It was OK but a little limited by the RAM and the dual scan screen. It has trails. I have an Angel laptop from 1999, Celeron 300, 128MB ram, Win98, ATi 8MB graphics, company paid $4700(!) for it for Y2K upgrade - previous laptop was the Compaq 486 50Mhz. That Angel gamed very well. Use to play Rainbow Six on it, Quake 3, Quake 2, Nascar Racing 2 and I had a wireless joystick, the laptop had S-video out and I had some arcade style games on it. I could launch the games with the joystick and return to launch another from the menu. It was great. Had to travel with it a few times and I would plug into the Motels TV via S-video and game 'till I fell asleep. Worked really well.
BUT can you imagine $4700 for 300Mhz in 1999? Adjusted to today's dollars that's $7130!
What kind of PC can you build for $7100 today? How fast, how many cores, how much RAM?
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I was just listening to a "Stuff you should know" podcast yesterday and they were discussing a game called Night Trap that originally was designed to be run on a VHS based game system!!.... my first thought was " I bet A.R. has this..."
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jask wrote: | I was just listening to a "Stuff you should know" podcast yesterday and they were discussing a game called Night Trap that originally was designed to be run on a VHS based game system!!.... my first thought was " I bet A.R. has this..." |
Nope missed that one from history.
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