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Link Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:19 pm Post subject: BDXL burning is it worth it to go with M-disc? |
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Hi guys, building my next PC over here for the last couple weeks and I'm down to the optical drive. My main uses are digital camera card storage to optical media.
I have a Pioneer 2209 fresh and new in the box it has M-disc burning. Is it worth the extra cost for the M-discs vs quality Verbatim 50gb BD-R's??
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WanMan
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Link Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not getting it. Optical storage seems a bit expensive considering its limitation in capacity. I would expect a pair of hard drives that are swapped out every couple of years to be cheaper, more up to date, faster authoring, faster accessing (navigation and access), re-writable, and portable.
The quality 50GB media shown on the M-Disc website costs about $9-10/disc in five-packs. For comparison, you can get a USB3 based 1TB external 2.5" WDC Ultra product for US$59.
Not trying to troll and sorry if it sounds like that, but I abandoned the optical authoring market long ago when the cost of drive storage plummeted to make buying drives in multi-unit form the norm.
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AnalogRocks Forum Moderator
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I don't trust hard drives at all. I've had many that just give up with a click or a whirl.
All my optical stuff I have been burning since 1999 is still readable except the ultra cheap Alpine CD-R's that I bought at an Office Place sale.
Cost isn't the issue, longevity is. I wish I had a Polaroid Pro Pallette 8000 film recorder. Then I would just back up all the important images to film. We know that lasts 100+ years.
Now with the new camera's using 64gb SD cards the old 8GB DVD+DL's don't cut it anymore. Then I saw 100GB M-disc rated to last 100+ years wondering if it's worth it or if anyone has tried it.
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AnalogRocks wrote: | I don't trust hard drives at all. I've had many that just give up with a click or a whirl.
All my optical stuff I have been burning since 1999 is still readable except the ultra cheap Alpine CD-R's that I bought at an Office Place sale.
Cost isn't the issue, longevity is. I wish I had a Polaroid Pro Pallette 8000 film recorder. Then I would just back up all the important images to film. We know that lasts 100+ years.
Now with the new camera's using 64gb SD cards the old 8GB DVD+DL's don't cut it anymore. Then I saw 100GB M-disc rated to last 100+ years wondering if it's worth it or if anyone has tried it. |
Got stacks of BD-Rs sitting since I got my pallet of blank media. Have yet to burn a single disc. I have little to no desire to use them because the size is just too small. I store all my information on redundant hard drive arrays, if one fails the other takes over, gives time to swap out the bad one and then throw a new one in.
I have to say though, as long as you make sure your mechanical drives are no more than cool/almost warm to the touch, they will never fail. Got a set of 5 going on 10 years and still rotating, and a couple of them came from an old build that the HDD fan failed on and they all overheated. Rule of thumb:
KEEP YOUR MECHANICAL DRIVES COOL, they like it
Otherwise yes, your best bet for "Reliable" media would probably be a 100GB BDXL
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Link Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Jeremy112 wrote: | AnalogRocks wrote: | I don't trust hard drives at all. I've had many that just give up with a click or a whirl.
All my optical stuff I have been burning since 1999 is still readable except the ultra cheap Alpine CD-R's that I bought at an Office Place sale.
Cost isn't the issue, longevity is. I wish I had a Polaroid Pro Pallette 8000 film recorder. Then I would just back up all the important images to film. We know that lasts 100+ years.
Now with the new camera's using 64gb SD cards the old 8GB DVD+DL's don't cut it anymore. Then I saw 100GB M-disc rated to last 100+ years wondering if it's worth it or if anyone has tried it. |
Got stacks of BD-Rs sitting since I got my pallet of blank media. Have yet to burn a single disc. I have little to no desire to use them because the size is just too small. I store all my information on redundant hard drive arrays, if one fails the other takes over, gives time to swap out the bad one and then throw a new one in.
I have to say though, as long as you make sure your mechanical drives are no more than cool/almost warm to the touch, they will never fail. Got a set of 5 going on 10 years and still rotating, and a couple of them came from an old build that the HDD fan failed on and they all overheated. Rule of thumb:
KEEP YOUR MECHANICAL DRIVES COOL, they like it
Otherwise yes, your best bet for "Reliable" media would probably be a 100GB BDXL |
OR I find a Film Recorder. Man that may get a)a little expensive and b) a little slow when recording full motion video
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