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PostLink    Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:15 am    Post subject: Lumagen Video processing vs. sim2 internal vidio processing Reply with quote


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I would like too know if the Lumagen 2041 does a better job than the video processing in a 3 chip DLP example Sim2 or DPI?
So if I by a 3 chip DLP do I need the Lumagen?
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PostLink    Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort of image processing does the SIM2 or DPI have? I would be very surprised it had the level of processing a Lumagen can do, including a full 9x9x9 LUT for colour correction of 729 points in real-time. (Note that the model you're asking about is discontinued - newer models now do 17x17x17 for 4913 points.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

O.k
so which 3 chip DLP does not have a video processing on board, so that it could be used with the Lumagen?
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All projectors / displays can be used with a Lumagen video processor. It does not matter what sort of processing they have on board (if any).
You do not need to "not" have video processing built into the projector to make use of a Lumagen Radiance.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which Lumagen should be used for the Sony VPL-VW1100es?
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which Lumagen should be used for the Sony VPL-VW1100es?
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I would suggest either the 2143 or 2144 with 4K output. If you don't need analog inputs, go with the 2143. If you need analog inputs, go with the 2144. The complete list of features can be found in the comparison table on our order page here:

http://www.curtpalme.com/Radiance.shtm

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I buy a Sony VPL VW 1000 and use a Lumagen 2143 will I need the 2.0 Hdmi to vw 1100?
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I don't understand your question.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the difference between a Sony VPL-VW 1000es and the Sony VPL -VW 1100?
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea. A quick Google search tells me the 1100es is a newer version that replaces the older 1000es.
If you're in the market for a $28K projector like this, I'm sure your dealer will work with you and explain the differences and find what's right for you. You can also visit Sony's website and look at specifications.

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The VW1100 did replace the 1000.

The VW1000 was released pretty prematurely (relative to 4K/UHD) with HDMI 1.4 and couldn't handle the newer HDCP 2.2 required for their newer UHD media streamer. Considering the cost of the VW1000, Sony made the upgrades available to their customers. It was like $2500, and you got a new main logic board for the projector, a new lamp, the newer media streamer, and a Sony tablet to control the streamer which I don't think had any other remote.

The CMS is apparently pretty lame in the VW1000/1100, so guys with those projectors wanting good color would probably want a Lumagen, perhaps the reason behind the OP's question.

Street price on the VW1100 is now well under $20k - more like $15-17 these days.

Unless you're pushing the limits on screen size, or unless a guy got some kind of a bargain on the VW1100, the VW600 would be a much better choice for must users.

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PostLink    Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ecrabb wrote:
The VW1100 did replace the 1000.

The VW1000 was released pretty prematurely (relative to 4K/UHD) with HDMI 1.4 and couldn't handle the newer HDCP 2.2 required for their newer UHD media streamer. Considering the cost of the VW1000, Sony made the upgrades available to their customers. It was like $2500, and you got a new main logic board for the projector, a new lamp, the newer media streamer, and a Sony tablet to control the streamer which I don't think had any other remote.

The CMS is apparently pretty lame in the VW1000/1100, so guys with those projectors wanting good color would probably want a Lumagen, perhaps the reason behind the OP's question.

Street price on the VW1100 is now well under $20k - more like $15-17 these days.

Unless you're pushing the limits on screen size, or unless a guy got some kind of a bargain on the VW1100, the VW600 would be a much better choice for must users.

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Yes, Sony has had a messed up CMS ever since the Ruby and Pearl and it has not gotten any better. The only good way to get an accurate color gamut across the entire gamut is with a Radiance processor.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CIR Engineering wrote:
Yes, Sony has had a messed up CMS ever since the Ruby and Pearl and it has not gotten any better. The only good way to get an accurate color gamut across the entire gamut is with a Radiance processor.

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