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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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I posted on the 1:1 pixel mapping thread on the Lumagen Forum.

We'll see what they come back with.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah.. patience.. lol

I tested it with Laserdisc last night, and running 1080P 60hz DVI out with a H total 2270.

That was super nice, maybe the best LD experience i ever had.. A big problem with LD is lipsync.. so when using the Crystalio and sending 480P to the radiance for scaling, its super bad lipsync, and no where to adjust it.

Even deinterlacing looked ok.. Try conect a Laserdisc player to the Radiance and everyone in the room gets sick.. its that bad.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah LD and HDQ are great together as is SDI DVD.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got this from Jim..


""The HDQ maximum clock output rate is 148.25, which is 1080p60. You cannot pixel match above 1080p60 output.""
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that is DVI did he specify RGBHV?

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nashou66 wrote:
I think that is DVI did he specify RGBHV?

Nashou


I asked again to make him confirm..

Im testing now, and running 168Mhz DVI out

it will fail if i run a bit higher. 1125x2490x60
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I have gone DVI out pretty high too

but I am almost sure I did 1080p@72 i had to really play with timings to squeeze it in.

And we always use the term 1 to 1 pixel mapping for our CRT's when in reality that term is only for a fixed pixel display.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well the 1:1 pixel mapping i refer to is in- out the VP, and in case of crt not the display.. like it will just display whats trown at it.


Reply from Jim.



So the 1080P 72hz via analog RGBHV out is just not true.?

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It is true since you said “1080p72,” but what is not true is expecting the HDQ to do 1920x1080p at 72.



I still need to find out how i make a 1:1 pixel mapping out with the analog output, it looks like pass true have no effect with analog output, how can i solve that.?

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The only way to do 1:1 on analog output, is to have the output selected as “Both” DVI and analog. Then if you have 1920x1080i or 1920x1080p24 input, and the DVI output is set to 1920x1080p60 output on the analog is also 1:1 since the DVI is what is used to set output mode.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MENU 0 9 3 2 4 will activate both DVI and RGBHV out, and then i get the 1:1 pixel mapping..( no scaling )

But there is no sence in using the analog out if using a moome input card.

The analog out of the HDQ dont have the BW to resolve 1920x1080P 60hz, the DVI do resolve it fully.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok So It might do it or might not, just like some of the Radiance have to be checked if it can do 1080p@72.

Also there is MODE A or MODE B when asked to select p after entering 1080.

From Gordon in London

"it's been a while but....if you go to menu>out>res and type in 1080 then choose P it asks whether you want a or b"

I do remember now after his response seeing the choice. I can not remember which I chose .

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurt double check the marquees * menu to se what the refresh rates are, i know it does 1920x1080p@60 via DVI it always has, but we are asking about 1920x1080p@72 via RGBHV I know I have done it, or was close to it.

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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nashou66 wrote:
Kurt double check the marquees * menu to se what the refresh rates are, i know it does 1920x1080p@60 via DVI it always has, but we are asking about 1920x1080p@72 via RGBHV I know I have done it, or was close to it.

Athanasios


Just testing..

You can run high framerate only with analog output active, and then you cant do 1:1 pixel mapping, and its possible if still under the 168mhz.

so with scaling/ messed up 1:1 pixel and Htotal around 2100 it will do 1920x1080 72hz
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have to shut scaling off. Set it to PASS.



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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nashou66 wrote:
you have to shut scaling off. Set it to PASS.



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Try it.. it wont work.. as JIM write its only 1:1 pixel match if you run both output together.

And that blocks output over 60hz

I just pased 1920x 1080 77hz, but the input have some serious overscan i cant find out to corect. i can push it around, but not get it right.

Anyway.. if it dont have bandwidth to resolve 1080P 60hz.. i dont see a purpose to push it higher..

It roles off on the vertical lines like a normal CRT do. already at 150mhz

Maybe it will do it with a SD input.
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PostLink    Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotcha, it has been a couple years since I used the HDQ exclusively for 1080p.

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