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Remove SEMU, COG and port 3 card from BG1209s/E

 
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject: Remove SEMU, COG and port 3 card from BG1209s/E Reply with quote


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I have a BG1209s/E that is equipped with a SEMU and COG card.

Is it easy just to remove these extra cards or how are they integrated into the unit?

I also think about removing the port3 card, but I guess that is the same way as my old 1208s/2, just unplug it and all is fine.

Why remove? I dont use them, I dont plan to use them and they add to power consumption (=heat) and reduced airflow in the unit (I am looking at trying to reduce noise).

I looked at the service manual, but I cant find them mentioned there, maybe there is extra manuals that covers these extra cards.

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PostLink    Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be cutted wire links in 1209s rgb driver board, those need to be resoldered when SEMU is removed from controller box.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/projectors/1032215-how-remove-semu-barco-909-cine-9-a.html

Port3 and COG are easy to to remove, just unplug boards.
http://www.curtpalme.com/docs/BarcoConvergenceOnGreen_Install.pdf

Same thing with Iris, if you don't need it. Iris board is installed to controller box.
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Remove SEMU, COG and port 3 card from BG1209s/E Reply with quote

nombz wrote:
I have a BG1209s/E that is equipped with a SEMU and COG card.

Is it easy just to remove these extra cards or how are they integrated into the unit?

I also think about removing the port3 card, but I guess that is the same way as my old 1208s/2, just unplug it and all is fine.

Why remove? I dont use them, I dont plan to use them and they add to power consumption (=heat) and reduced airflow in the unit (I am looking at trying to reduce noise).

I looked at the service manual, but I cant find them mentioned there, maybe there is extra manuals that covers these extra cards.


Personally I like the COG board in fact I used to add it to my Barcos that did not come with it. You can use it to tweak the green geometry in a way that is not possible with the other geometric controls (to get it nearly perfect). Also note that if your projector has the horizontal linearity option, I believe that might be a sub-board mounted on the CoG card. If you really want to remove it then look at the instructions Curt has for the installation because it will tell you where some wires need to be connected back to the convergence card.
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PostLink    Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ile, looks like I should have done my homework there....

Removing the COG certainly seems like too much work in the internals for it to be interesting for me.

@secstate: Yes I thought about that too but geometry is pretty... perfect as it is already.
I do have horizontal linearity, I had no idea that was and extra. I probably dont really need it since I looked at that yesterday and too me it looks (and measures) perfectly without touching it.

I will look at the SEMU card to see if I want to remove it. Looks like it isnt certain that it looks the same for Cine9/909 in the thread Ile points to as it does for 1209s/E. If all is needed is the jumper, I might actually have one in my spare 1208s/2. Will check.
Otherwise I might just leave it. I was hoping for a simple "just unplug" answer Smile

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leave COG board.
It could be fine to adjust some green convergence issue.

SEMU boards are useless with only one projector.
Remove any SEMU components and pull R762720 board.
Locate in that board three cutted jumpers and resolder.

Reinsert R762720 board.
Done!

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PostLink    Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I removed SEMU on my 1209s/E. No problems; just disconnect and re-solder the jumpers.

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your information!

I have remove port 3 card (simple as described).

I have found the RGB driver board and the jumpers (and there two connectors with wires going to the SEMU in the controller box). My plan is to simply disconnect the connectors and solder the jumpers as described here.

However, on top of the RGB driver card is a "contrast modulation" board(R7624845). What is that? I thought that the SEMU was for blending, but is this something similar?

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that you removed IBCL link module, not port3.
In fact, IBCL Link board occupies the slot of port3.

In the picture below you can see the SEMU elements

Contrast modulation is ultra rare module and it can work alone. Leave it!



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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty sure I removed the port 3 since I already have two sitting in a box here Smile I will doublecheck to be 100% sure.

Looks like the pictures you does not correspond to the cards I have.

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, at least the PJ works perfectly without the port 3 card (I am pretty sure it is the right card, it was connected to the port3 connector on the switcher card and looks exactly and have the same partnr as the other port 3 cards I have).

I removed the two connections from the RGB output card that is marked "to soft edge module" and soldered the jumpers back on. The PJ works perfectly Smile

In the controller box, are both card 1 and card 2 in this picture to be removed? (I guess it is hard to leave card 1 after 2 has been removed Smile )
So the fan is only for semu?



I also "found" (have never really thought about it before) the contrast modulation in the menus of the barco. I guess that is what the card that was attached to the output card was all about. Dont know what it really does but I am sure I can read up on that.

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PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The card 1 is Iris interface. The card 2 is SEMU interface (with his little fan).
You must remove both cards.
Then Insert card 1 in the only one slot present.

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PostLink    Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for your help!

I removed both the SEMU card and the IRIS card (never used IRIS anyway).

Removing the SEMU was a good idea, I am pretty sure that the noise was greatly reduced! First start of the PJ and I could hear a difference. Must have been the small fan on high rpm resonating in the controller box that is now removed.

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