Return to the CurtPalme.com main site CurtPalme.com Home Theater Forum
A forum with a sense of fun and community for Home Theater enthusiasts!
Products for Sale ] [ FAQ: Hooking it all up ] [ CRT Primer/FAQ ] [ Best/Worst CRT Projectors List ] [ Setup Tips & Manuals ] [ Advanced Procedures ] [ Newsletters ]

 
Forum FAQForum FAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist  Photo AlbumsPhoto Albums  RegisterRegister 
 MembershipClub Membership   ProfileProfile   Private MessagesPrivate Messages   Log inLog in 
Blu-ray disc release list and must-have titles. Buy the latest and best Blu-ray titles to show off in your home theater!

Got a new hum problem - Need tech experience!

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer-friendly view    CurtPalme.com Forum Index -> Audio
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Boilermaker



Joined: 21 May 2006
Posts: 527



PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:59 am    Post subject: Got a new hum problem - Need tech experience! Reply with quote


        Register to remove this ad. It's free!
A week ago a loud hum appeared on all channels of my HT audio system. I made no changes to cause it and it just appeared. In chasing down the problem I found it went away as soon as I disconnected the CATV line to my cable box. So I picked up a little CATV in-line hum eliminator and the hum disappeared.

The new problem I discovered Friday was that one of the channels (NCAA BB game) would not work. In fact, it was only one channel that would not work. So, I removed the hum eliminator, and the channel now works! WTF!!!

I assumed the hum eliminator is nothing but a series capacitor to block the low frequencies, but am I missing something here?


Thanks,
Bob
Back to top
HK-Steve



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
Posts: 566
Location: Switzerland

TV/Projector: Marquee 9500, Sony D50


PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same kind of problem,
I went to an car audio shop, picked up a stereo line isolator, has RCA plugs on each side. Solved my issue.

Something like the ebay link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scosche-ES034-RCA-Ground-Loop-Isolator-Amp-Stereo-Signal-Noise-Filter-Suppressor-/120878069517?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c24e4f70d&vxp=mtr


Cheers
Back to top
Boilermaker



Joined: 21 May 2006
Posts: 527



PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I had the same kind of problem,


Was your problem caused by a CATV signal?
Back to top
HK-Steve



Joined: 15 Jul 2006
Posts: 566
Location: Switzerland

TV/Projector: Marquee 9500, Sony D50


PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it was, same issue of hum when connected, gone when dis-connected.
The output from my sat box is just stereo rca jacks, so was an easy fix.


Cheers
Steev
Back to top
Boilermaker



Joined: 21 May 2006
Posts: 527



PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using both the Toslink and the analog outputs for two different rooms, so I'm going to to disconnect the analog outputs to see it that will work.

Thanks,
Bob
Back to top
Curt Palme
CRT Tech


Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 18058
Location: Langley, BC


PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If not, try a different brand of cable ground isolator. All are NOT made the same!
Back to top
macgyver655



Joined: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 6956



PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, if the AC plug is 3 prong, try a 2 prong adapter.
_________________
macgyver566@gmail.com
Back to top
Boilermaker



Joined: 21 May 2006
Posts: 527



PostLink    Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pulling out the analog didn't help - What is really wierd is that there is no hum in the analog system I'm using in my bedroom, but it is in my HT which is using the toslink!? All the equipment is located in the same rack, however.

Quote:
If not, try a different brand of cable ground isolator.


Good idea - Jensen used to make stuff like this years ago, so I'll try to find them.




Quote:
Also, if the AC plug is 3 prong, try a 2 prong adapter.


It's only two.


I hate cable - I should reactivate my Directv as it is much nicer. I went with cable because they bundle it with phone and internet and it's hard to beat the price.


Thanks,
Bob
Back to top
Curt Palme
CRT Tech


Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 18058
Location: Langley, BC


PostLink    Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, don't use the consumer stuff. Go to a satellite installer and ask to buy one. Worst case, I've got them here, but you should be able to get one locally. Look for something like the Holland brand, Blonder Tongue, etc.
Back to top
Nashou66



Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 12842
Location: West Seneca NY

TV/Projector: Marquee 8000, 8500 And a 9500LC RetroIV , 2 Longbow 8500 Ultras(2004!!)Hd145's , Ampro 3600, a G90!!


PostLink    Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob, Where is the distribution box/splitter for the cable Grounded? If its not grounded to the same side of your isolation transformer as the rest of your system a hum can develop. I had the same issue with my Sat box. I then ran a ground from the distribution amps for the sat dish's to the sub panel box and the hum went away. Might be the same thing.

Athanasios

_________________
Don't blame your underwear for your crooked ass~ unknown Greek philosopher


"The government can't control the economy without controlling the people" RR

One Smart Dog!!!
Tom Bauerle to Andre Cuomo" Elliot Spitzer Screwed some Prostitutes, you screwed the Constitution" On his call to Cuomo to Resign!!!

Marquee High Performance Bellows now shipping!!
Marquee Modifications and Performance Enhancement
Marquee C-element and Bellow removal
Back to top
View user's photo album (1 photos)
Boilermaker



Joined: 21 May 2006
Posts: 527



PostLink    Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Bob, Where is the distribution box/splitter for the cable Grounded? If its not grounded to the same side of your isolation transformer as the rest of your system a hum can develop. I had the same issue with my Sat box. I then ran a ground from the distribution amps for the sat dish's to the sub panel box and the hum went away. Might be the same thing.


Hadn't thought of that - Easy to do, so I'll do it.

Actually got lucky on this one. When the cable guy came out I insisted that he exchange my box for a newer one with a decent sized hard drive. The hum is now gone - must have been something wrong with the old box?!
Back to top
Curt Palme
CRT Tech


Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 18058
Location: Langley, BC


PostLink    Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not. Ground loops can occur when changes are made somewhere in the cable line outside of the house, down the road or across the street somewhere. Different units route the ground differently as well, so it can change for the better or worse when the box is changed. Change the preamp or something in your a/v system, and that too can make it better or worse.
Back to top
Boilermaker



Joined: 21 May 2006
Posts: 527



PostLink    Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ground loops can be a major PITA to find. The more complex the system, the more opportunity for a loop to occur, and mine is very complex. I'm just glad that this one is gone and I can still get all the channels.

I wish someone made an inexpensive converter that would convert the coax CATV to optical and then back to coax which would eliminate this problem and also eliminate lightning damage to equipment coming in on the coax.


Bob
Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer-friendly view    CurtPalme.com Forum Index -> Audio All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum