Hello I have installed my VIP-Theater into my Home theater, a little break down of my Home Theater Fist
I run a CIH (Constant Image Height) environment.
The HT details are:
- HTPC windows 7-64bit Ultimate
- EVGA Nvidia 430 HDMI 1.4a video
- 4gigs ram
- HDAV 1.3 Deluxe sound card -- running 7.1 analog
- VIP-Theater 3D + RF Emitter
- VP50 Video Scaler running 1.09 firmware
- Sony VPL 50 1080p projector + ISCO III lens
- Screen 144" (12 feet wide) 235:1 aspect ratio screen
Software player: TMT5 set to use Blu-Ray 3D always -- environment set to 3D Vision.
How I am using the VIP-Theater unit:
HTPC output 1080p/24hz (set to 3DHD) -> input VIP-Theater 3D
VIPTheater 3D output to my VP50 scaler.
Just FYI -- OSD shows VP50 input is 720p/60 --> i then scale to 1080p/60 --> into Sony VPL 50 (with ISCO III lens)
The output is pure 3D !! works great -- however i have some ghosting issues...but i think this is polarity -- or possible delay changes i need on the glasses -- more on this later.
I need the ability to expand to 235:1 so my ISCO III lens works properly for instance playing Reident Evil 3D -- this is a 235:1 movie -- I needed the ability for my VP50 to still do what it does for normal blu-ray ie: provide me with 235:1 aspect ratio that my ISCO III lens then works with -- and the results are WORKS PERFECTLY with this arrangement -- so I not only can scale to 1080p but i can also use my 235:1 aspect ratio and etc..
Now my only draw back is ghosting. flicker is nearly non-existent on my VPL50 as i display to my screen. There is some, but it is minor, not that much different then using my Panasonic VT25 - 3D plasma shows with its glasses.
However i have ghosting. Now this could be polarity, or delay or cycle ??
I am going to try switching polarity first, and then get into delay changes with the glasses?
BTW -- has anyone have experience with the Bit-Caldron BCS500 USB utility program? i have a copy and i am wondering would i have to run a second USB cable from the emitter itself to alter and use the program / util?
Right now i have a single cable going from the VIP-Theater 3D unit to my HTPC to provide power, works fine, and the emitter is connected of course via the sync cable, but i do not run a second USB cable.
I have not tested this yet, just obtained the program, but could the program pass through the VIP-Theater and affect the emitter? or more likly i need a second usb cable?
Also does the emitter have to be placed in to adjustment mode with the emitter joystick? or the USB software need not concern with this it can still alter the emitter without placing the emitter in the mode?
So far the setup is really intersting, i am not sure yet about the ghosting issue, if anyone has issues with ghosting and what they did i would like to hear some tweaks?
So far CIH and the Theater and my VP50 all live nicely together, and i can get 1080p/60 and still see 3D so it looks very promising.
Link Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:26 am Post subject: Re: VIP-Theater 3D in 1080p/60 in CIH Home Theater - READ Ho
charles2010 wrote:
Hello I have installed my VIP-Theater into my Home theater, a little break down of my Home Theater Fist
I run a CIH (Constant Image Height) environment.
The HT details are:
- HTPC windows 7-64bit Ultimate
- EVGA Nvidia 430 HDMI 1.4a video
- 4gigs ram
- HDAV 1.3 Deluxe sound card -- running 7.1 analog
- VIP-Theater 3D + RF Emitter
- VP50 Video Scaler running 1.09 firmware
- Sony VPL 50 1080p projector + ISCO III lens
- Screen 144" (12 feet wide) 235:1 aspect ratio screen
Software player: TMT5 set to use Blu-Ray 3D always -- environment set to 3D Vision.
How I am using the VIP-Theater unit:
HTPC output 1080p/24hz (set to 3DHD) -> input VIP-Theater 3D
VIPTheater 3D output to my VP50 scaler.
Just FYI -- OSD shows VP50 input is 720p/60 --> i then scale to 1080p/60 --> into Sony VPL 50 (with ISCO III lens)
The output is pure 3D !! works great -- however i have some ghosting issues...but i think this is polarity -- or possible delay changes i need on the glasses -- more on this later.
I need the ability to expand to 235:1 so my ISCO III lens works properly for instance playing Reident Evil 3D -- this is a 235:1 movie -- I needed the ability for my VP50 to still do what it does for normal blu-ray ie: provide me with 235:1 aspect ratio that my ISCO III lens then works with -- and the results are WORKS PERFECTLY with this arrangement -- so I not only can scale to 1080p but i can also use my 235:1 aspect ratio and etc..
Now my only draw back is ghosting. flicker is nearly non-existent on my VPL50 as i display to my screen. There is some, but it is minor, not that much different then using my Panasonic VT25 - 3D plasma shows with its glasses.
However i have ghosting. Now this could be polarity, or delay or cycle ??
I am going to try switching polarity first, and then get into delay changes with the glasses?
BTW -- has anyone have experience with the Bit-Caldron BCS500 USB utility program? i have a copy and i am wondering would i have to run a second USB cable from the emitter itself to alter and use the program / util?
Right now i have a single cable going from the VIP-Theater 3D unit to my HTPC to provide power, works fine, and the emitter is connected of course via the sync cable, but i do not run a second USB cable.
I have not tested this yet, just obtained the program, but could the program pass through the VIP-Theater and affect the emitter? or more likly i need a second usb cable?
Also does the emitter have to be placed in to adjustment mode with the emitter joystick? or the USB software need not concern with this it can still alter the emitter without placing the emitter in the mode?
So far the setup is really intersting, i am not sure yet about the ghosting issue, if anyone has issues with ghosting and what they did i would like to hear some tweaks?
So far CIH and the Theater and my VP50 all live nicely together, and i can get 1080p/60 and still see 3D so it looks very promising.
thank you for listening
Charles
Hi Charles,
Good to hear from somone using HTPC with a VIP 3D product.
That's the only unit I haven't tried my Displayer on, will try it later.
In regards to the RF glasses adjustments I am reposting my answer from the AVS forum here as well.
Delay has the greatest effect for ghosting but it can have some interaction with duty cycle. So if you change duty cycle after setting delay first you might have to touch up delay again.
I usually make the adjustment with the main movie screen where it asks to play move, special features and other stuff. I like using the text characters to tune out any ghosting, after that everything else looks fine.
To enter adjustment mode:
Hold jstick to left until the 2nd LED lights, release, after that moving jstick up/down increases/decreases "delay. Jstick adjusted L/R increases/decreases "duty cycle".
When your satisfied with those settings, do not move jstick anymore and it will return to normal mode after a 2minute timeout.
So, again, start with delay then duty cycle. Notice that duty cycle affects brightness levels, so find the compromise that results in the best visual effect.
As far as polarity, if it is wrong you will lose 3D depth. A quick test for comparison if you suspect that, is take off the glasses and view through them upside down, in effect swapping lenses between eyes. If depth is noticably improved then do a polarity change.
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